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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:18 pm 
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I think trade Jagga and Dean and get better young kids!

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:21 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Great result .
I am selfish I wanted us to win by more.
Hoping for good news on Carroll.
9 4 first half 4 10 2nd half
Complete domination for the first 15 minutes of the 3rd but failed to hit scoreboard
Cripps has 6 brownlow votes the last 2 weeks can't believe people suggesting we trade him for picks but will face that Irish lads next Friday
Some poor decisions made by some of the younger players but to be expected
Harry has been brilliant the last 2 weeks. Those defensive marks is something we have lacked
We are a better side with Hewett in.
Pitto still gives to many ruck frees away.
Cowan starts games like a man possessed but fades badly
Wilson did some good things
Frank had a really great first half
Isons game could have been off the charts if he converted
Jagga regaining form
Watching Gov gut run forward was something I didn't think I would ever see
Florent is growing in stature
Hayward and Ainsworth starting to show something .
Can't believe I am saying this but Moir might have been a better selection than Flyn Young.
I think Weiters comes straight back in for Derkson
Dean is a very angry young man had a good game.
Love winning because losing sucks

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Thanks for posting my thoughts.

Glad you're happier SB.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:22 pm 
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Great player but my gosh Port are over reliant on JHF. Gets even worse for them if Butters goes.

Losing Curnow, TDK and JSOS to gain Hayward, Dean, Florent and Walker, etc. was smart list management by the departed Austin.

Losing a Walsh for Walker or a Butters for Cochrane would be a bit of kick in the teeth for Port.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:28 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Small summary of some interesting 2026 stats;

2026 handball average 159, this game 182
2026 average clearances 33, this game 27 and stoppage clearances 21 to 16 (also lost both to Port - interesting as Cripps dominated)
2026 contested possessions 132, this game 114 and uncontested 230 to 271.
2026 inside 50 efficiency 51%, this game 64%

Seems the game change is occurring and the boys are doing well with the changes.


Amazing stats from afar.
Parts of the first half reminded me of Ratts reign.

I'd like to see our highest and lowest numbers and who we were playing to get any benefit.
Looked to me we smashed them in contest and clearance where it counted most, CBs
Sure JHT got a bit of hard ball but eye test says Hewett Cripps Walsh dominated.
Butters got his ball in defense.

Its the efficiency that impressed me most. Forward handball. Speed of decision.

dare I say it, dare.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:30 pm 
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Won’t give it a rest
Your just as rude but keep it coming
I love it
As usual ignore the fact I said positive things about the young kids on our list. Can anyone remember the last time we had a dozen or so youngsters who showed great promise

Weitering and Cripps in my opinion need to be moved on
Melbourne need a full back
They have 2 first round picks
Trade for Weitering means we cover ourselves for Walker
Weitering’s disposal is so poor. He kicks backwards
Cripps is a selfish footballer
Because of their age they won’t be part of the next potential tilt for the flag
Look at Melbourne
New coach got rid of Oliver May and Petracca
New culture
I would make a play for Vlastuin as he is uncontracted
He can provide experience experience for our young bookend defenders
O’ Farrell and Dean
I really like Derkson
Play McKay as a ruckman resting forward
That’s his position
Walsh make him captain
Actually seems to care and I reckon he would thrive as a leader

Windy conveniently ignored to explain his knowledge of all the concessions the Tassie Devils get from the 2027 and beyond draft and trade period

The definition of stupidity is doing te same thing over and over again
Gotta take a bold approach
And get a first time senior coach who understands the modern game with zero influence from Greg Williams and the board
We wasted 4 and a half years on Voss


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:32 pm 
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bluedog wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Apart from that dropped mark, Cowan was an absolute gun last night after a bit of a meh season so far.





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And that centering kick which led to a Port goal.


Very solid game, though.


In the last 2 games there's been a few risky kicks to the corridor that imo weren't there. Ison kicked one too last night, again.
Couldnt see on TV, maybe Port flooded ahead of them, and no options. maybe didnt want to bomb, although in that 3rd we bombed it forward aimlessly 15 times.
But we won.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:34 pm 
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The definition of stupidity is doing te same thing over and over again




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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:39 pm 
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so some points

Cripps selfish? Maybe and yet everyone who talks about him (coaches, other players, other players from other teams etc) talks about his influence on those around him, they may just be talking through their arses or maybe he stats like the huge percentage he has for when Crippa wins a clearance we score (I think I heard 46% but me and stats are enemies so that could have been about anything at all).

Weitering trade only...only if you have an experienced back up - talk about repeating - well throwing Dean and O'Farrell to the wolves brings to mind the last 25 years more than your arcane concerns about the board.

Voss: Look not a great coach but lets not make it seem like he was shit either - he walked into a rabble club, despite what you think I don't think we are that rabble. He was done over by a shift at AFL that really destroyed his game plan he wasn't adapable so he fell on his sword but lets not rerwrite and make out it was all shit - we went close, closer than anyone since 2000 so you know give him that at least (and that with, apparently, a clueless board, shit recruiting etc etc).

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:41 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
so some points

Cripps selfish? Maybe and yet everyone who talks about him (coaches, other players, other players from other teams etc) talks about his influence on those around him, they may just be talking through their arses or maybe he stats like the huge percentage he has for when Crippa wins a clearance we score (I think I heard 46% but me and stats are enemies so that could have been about anything at all).

Weitering trade only...only if you have an experienced back up - talk about repeating - well throwing Dean and O'Farrell to the wolves brings to mind the last 25 years more than your arcane concerns about the board.

Voss: Look not a great coach but lets not make it seem like he was shit either - he walked into a rabble club, despite what you think I don't think we are that rabble. He was done over by a shift at AFL that really destroyed his game plan he wasn't adapable so he fell on his sword but lets not rerwrite and make out it was all shit - we went close, closer than anyone since 2000 so you know give him that at least (and that with, apparently, a clueless board, shit recruiting etc etc).

I reckon Vlastiun would be a good pickup to help downback


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:49 pm 
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keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
yeah for sugar hits on sugar hits....


What do you do with Weitering and Cripps
Do you trade them at the end of the year?
Or do you not have an opinion


Not sure what their trades have to do with sugar hits.

Last night I said we look good in defense, and with no Hawkins at Geelong, I can't see a match up for weitering.
That doesnt imply we dont have a need for weitering's strength on the last line, typically against the beasts, like Tilthorpe.
I remember Derksen player on Walker (Crows) and was rag dolled, and we lost. Walker kicker 5.

Horses for courses.

I am impressed with the youth we have amassed and seeing them flourish.
I don't think Flynn Young will be lucky to stay on our list, ditto campo twins, but otherwise we have a good blend of seniors and kids coming through, and a war chest to coompete against tassie offers to FA's. That's a good position to be in imo.

What we are seeing may be more than a sugar hit. Looks like we have tweaked and preserved energy we wasted with Vossy's super press.
We may make the 10, or close to it. I actually thought that before the win last night. Play with the predictor. Its an even comp.
ie we may end up with pick 8 or 9, or even 10 or 11, which will get pushed further with bids for FS and NGA.
Its great we have banked two 2 firsts for a FS who may be end up Pick 1, and definitely top 3. He's that good. That's a win for us.
Like Ison, Walker has been developed over last 2 years to become the players they are. Have you seen 18yo Walker dominate in the VFL?
Jagga and Dean look like they were worth 2 picks around 10 and two picks in the teens.

Cripps only has one year left on his contract. He makes our quality kids stand tall. Important.

Surely you saw some great signs last night, from kids, from the imports and from the seniors who have obviously lifted since Voss. Obviously.

I can see a bright future, and Carlton becoming a destination club again. You see, the footy world doesn't harbour the disdain you have for our Board, in fact, all the footy world know is we are a very strong club in Brand and off field. I'm also sure our connection to pokies isnt what anyone thinks of when it comes to betting in the AFL. The AFL Commission has its pours all over that mantle.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 12:57 pm 
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keogh wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
so some points

Cripps selfish? Maybe and yet everyone who talks about him (coaches, other players, other players from other teams etc) talks about his influence on those around him, they may just be talking through their arses or maybe he stats like the huge percentage he has for when Crippa wins a clearance we score (I think I heard 46% but me and stats are enemies so that could have been about anything at all).

Weitering trade only...only if you have an experienced back up - talk about repeating - well throwing Dean and O'Farrell to the wolves brings to mind the last 25 years more than your arcane concerns about the board.

Voss: Look not a great coach but lets not make it seem like he was shit either - he walked into a rabble club, despite what you think I don't think we are that rabble. He was done over by a shift at AFL that really destroyed his game plan he wasn't adapable so he fell on his sword but lets not rerwrite and make out it was all shit - we went close, closer than anyone since 2000 so you know give him that at least (and that with, apparently, a clueless board, shit recruiting etc etc).

I reckon Vlastiun would be a good pickup to help downback


Vlastuin would been good for us a couple years ago, just as he was for thr kids at Richmond. I love his type.

But Vlastuin is smaller than Cowan, turns 33yo next year and he has become injury prone. We are past injury prone players. We need FA's who will be part of our resurgence, and Tassie cant stop us from getting them. Tassie can have Vlastuin, IF they entertain the idea. Why would Richmond discard him?

I think Newman has another year in him. He's fitter now than he's ever been. Spoke to someone in the know, in the preseason when I asked why they were holding him back, and they told me he was held back despite being fit enough to play last year, to get miles into his legs to possibly play wing. Vlastuin isnt that verstile with body failing him. Have a look at the numbers Newman is running in each game. Newman trumps Vlastuin. Newman is a bird in the hand, and much cheaper than Vlastuin. You dont like Newman?

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 1:03 pm 
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Great win . Away from home on a traditionally bogey ground . Skipper phenomenal . He really does lead from the front .
We changed slightly in that we are changing angles a bit more and lowering our eyes going forward . That's about all . Don't like to individualise but geez our old veterans are standing up . Gov , Newie and Haines are so solid .

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 1:11 pm 
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Voss was a coach who didn’t learn from his mistakes at Brisbane
Credit for making a preliminary final
But in 4 and half years we had one year of success
The backend of 2023 and the first half of 2024
The board was responsible for giving Voss a 2 year contract extension
It was a knee jerk reaction
He was stubborn didn’t listen to his assistants and the game style was unsustainable

The board had the finger prints all over his appointment and the duration of his contract

Wright and Davies need to be completely unrestricted by these muppets
Let them get us out of this mess

This is the last year we can actually do something to our list for a while
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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 1:16 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Great win . Away from home on a traditionally bogey ground . Skipper phenomenal . He really does lead from the front .
We changed slightly in that we are changing angles a bit more and lowering our eyes going forward . That's about all . Don't like to individualise but geez our old veterans are standing up . Gov , Newie and Haines are so solid .


Sorry , how could I possibly not mention George in the veterans . Should never be out of the side . Also a special mention to our three new blokes this year in Florent , Ainsworth and Hayward . Such leaders , so professional .

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We actually won a milestone game FMD

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 2:59 pm 
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We actually won a milestone game FMD


Away at Adelaide Oval. Against a SA side.

What even is this.

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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 9:41 pm 
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I’m still ok with trading Cripps to give us a strong draft hand this year before Tassie get handed the cream of the draft next few years. Yes he’s had an awes7few weeks, which ups his trade value, but he had some pretty ordinary weeks before that. He’s become inconsistent in his old age, best to trade him while he has value. We have plenty of mids.

Weitering I would be holding onto though, need at least one mature, big defender for a few years.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 9:42 pm 
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Did georgiadis get reported for dangerously shoving Dean into that marking contest? He should get a few weeks at least compared to what you Ben got.


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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2026 10:10 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
I’m still ok with trading Cripps to give us a strong draft hand this year before Tassie get handed the cream of the draft next few years. Yes he’s had an awes7few weeks, which ups his trade value, but he had some pretty ordinary weeks before that. He’s become inconsistent in his old age, best to trade him while he has value. We have plenty of mids.

Weitering I would be holding onto though, need at least one mature, big defender for a few years.


Tassie has pick 1, 3, 5, 7, 11 and 13.

5,7,11, 13 must be traded and most likely for players (using marketing dollars). They could go to anyone

Therefore in the Draft Tassie use 1, and 3.

Assume bottom to top teams on ladder are as follows:

pick 1....19th Tassie
pick 1....18th Effendopes match Bewick and lose their 2nd No 1 for Merret
pick 2.....Tassie
pick 3....17th Richmond
pick 4....Tassie
pick 5....16th WCE
pick 6 ...whoever trades with tassie
pick 7 ....15th Port
pick 8 ....whoever Trades with Tassie
pick 9....14th Collingwood
pick 10...whoever trades with Tassie
pick 11....13th StKilda
pick 12 ....whoever trades with Tassie
pick 13 ....12th Bulldogs unless they trade for butters, then its port
pick 14.....11th Adelaide
pick 15 ....10th NM
pick 16 ....9th GWS
pick 17.....8th Melbourne
pick 18.....7th Carlton would have traded this for Humphrey
pick 19.....6th
pick 20.....5th
pick 21.....4th
pick 22.....3rd
pick 23.....2nd
pick 24.....1st
pick 25 .....Compo
pick 26......Compo
pick 27.....Tassie
pick 28.....Efendope used this for Bewick therefore richmond

we Trade our 2nd 1st rounder from Sydney for Humphrey swap for their 2nd rounder

What do you want for Cripps?

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CK95 wrote:
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The definition of stupidity is doing te same thing over and over again




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