The sunset was beautiful in Busselton tonight
The joy I get out of music is impossible to describe
The things I value are often the simple things
And you can’t put a price of long lasting love which I am lucky to have
Oh and I love my kids
And I love my cat and dog because like Carlton they don’t change
Supporting Carlton is a small part of my life
And I am a true supporter
Don’t sugarcoat
Saw Kouta interviewed last week
Watch Rhys Jones every week
I get why they can’t say anything too negative
Don’t want to piss off their mates or too stupid to see what the real problem is
When this board is challenged by 8 people with footy acumen who want nothing to do with people who make recycle paper or work poker machines then I’ll be happy about Carlton
Until that happens my belief is nothing will change

Did posters seethe Devils draft and salary cap concessions announced yesterday
They as in the AFL in their eyes have learnt
So the club needs to sell hope to Cowan who is developing into an excellent player to not return home in 2027

When we have a Board that has Football Operations higher up on the agenda item (rather than at item 6 or 7) will be a good day for Carlton.

_________________
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Keogh believes he is a True Supporter. It got me thinking, and this is what the Ai Search Assist came up with......

A 'True Supporter' of a team is someone who demonstrates unwavering loyalty and emotional investment, celebrating victories and enduring losses alongside the team. This commitment often includes attending matches, knowing team history, and actively engaging with fellow fans.

Definition of a True Supporter

A 'True Supporter' of a team embodies several key characteristics that reflect deep emotional investment and loyalty. This commitment goes beyond mere casual interest in the team.

Key Characteristics

Unwavering Loyalty - True supporters remain dedicated to their team, celebrating victories and enduring losses together.

Emotional Investment - They feel a strong emotional connection to the team's successes and failures, often viewing them as personal experiences.

Active Engagement - True supporters engage with fellow fans, participate in discussions, and share their passion for the team.

Knowledge of Team History - They possess a deep understanding of the team's history, including key players, memorable matches, and statistics.

Attendance at Matches - Regularly attending games is a common practice, reinforcing their commitment and connection to the team.

Importance of Commitment

The essence of being a true supporter lies in the emotional bond formed with the team. This bond fosters a sense of belonging and identity, making the experience of supporting the team a significant part of their lives. True supporters often create traditions and rituals that enhance their connection to the team, further solidifying their role as dedicated fans.

How many of us tick those boxes?

I rarely attend these days. I was going to go to training today and then got side tracked with sorting my sock draw. The AFL has killed my interest. The entire system has failed the Loyal Supporter. The media and great big money has slowly eroded my Loyalty these past 5 years.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Overview of the AFL Team Board's Role

The board of an AFL football team plays a vital role in the governance and strategic management of the club. Their responsibilities encompass various aspects essential for the club's success and integrity.

Key Responsibilities

Governance and Strategic Direction
Oversee the club's governance framework.
Set and implement the strategic direction of the club.
Ensure compliance with regulations established by the AFL Commission.
Financial Sustainability
Monitor and manage the club's financial health.
Make decisions that promote long-term financial viability.
Represent the interests of members and stakeholders in financial matters.

Operational Management

Make key decisions regarding the club's operations.
Ensure effective management of resources and personnel.
Uphold the club's integrity and reputation within the league.

Importance of the Board

The board is crucial for maintaining the club's integrity and success within the league. By fulfilling these responsibilities, they help ensure that the club operates effectively and remains competitive in the AFL.

All this talk about the Board, but none of it says anything about on field performance.

My understanding is the Football aspect is covered by the CEO and Football Manager. They dictate the evolution of Coaches, Players and Performance.

I honestly think you are living in the past Keogh, in suggesting the Board is the main issue at Carlton.
The Boards Role is Finance and Governance. Carlton is in the Black and back to being a powerhouse as regards Membership numbers. In that respect, the Board is fulfilling its obligations.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

I can't speak for keogh - but I don't think you can question my supporting credentials.

Been here long enough and also supported the board back in 2004 when we handed out leaflets in front of Princes Park actually supporting the then Board.

When I am at a game everyone within hearing distance knows I support Carlton.

_________________
"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

To be fair, I think Keogh's point is that the board is overstepping its mandate and IS meddling in football operations where it shouldn't be and where it has no practical experience.

My point is that they should be representing Carlton's interest and protecting the club from the AFL, including challenging these ridiculous f/s draft rules. That's not in the offical role description because the underlying assumption is that the AFL is a benevolent overlord, which it manifestly is not.

Don’t know why you have to write in red to get your point across
It’s harder to read as well
If 8 coaches and 7 CEOs in 25 years doesn’t convince you that they arnt the real issue well…
This is true
When the senior coaching job was advertised in 2021 part of Greg Williams job description was to assemble a selection panel to interview prospective candidates for the job
David Parkin was on the panel but Diesel forgot to ring and ask him
So Parkin was told he was on the panel and he didn’t know
Williams is on the board. He also gets paid. He shouldn’t be paid because it’s voluntary but the club gives him some job title
He also had the main say in Voss getting the job even before other candidates like Kingsley being interviewed
Diesel has health issues related to his football career. Not making light of that but the only job he should have is teaching players to handball
Voss was known to be poor tactically which was evident in the 2024 Elimination Final but the scapegoat from that disaster was the fitness boss
No changing of coaching took place until halfway through 2025

You talk about the definition of loyalty
I couldn’t give a shit what the Oxford Dictionary trots out
What I do know is this board treats its members like shit with continuous and copious amounts of rubbish
Anyway enjoy the rest of your day

Cazzeman
You bring up a very important point
You list the board’s responsibilities
So if that’s the boards job then do we assume they don’t have any say in football matters
I’m given you a direct example in the previous post that contradicts that
If that’s the boards job why is Priestley on the interview panel with Davies and Wright
Shouldn’t a Hodge or Bartel be on there

Looks all good in writing but the reality is they interfere
Successful clubs have boards with footy acumen
You don’t have to have played the game to have footy acumen

Keogh just to clarify...........

When I post in Red, it is to signify they aren't my words. It to ensure the reader knows I have 'copy and pasted' it from another source. i.e. Newspaper, Social Media, AI Search etc. Hence why I also state - From The Age or From AI Search.

I didn't talk about the definition of Loyalty - AI Did, hence the Red.

And I am certainly not suggesting who is Loyal and who is not. I did explain why my own Supporter Loyalty has faltered. I was asking if posters here feel they fit the AI definition of Supporter Loyalty.

Keogh I think your posting history would suggest that a complete change in the Board, would not change your glass half empty take on the Carlton FC. If the Club filled the Board with football people and the Finances and Membership started to stuffer, you would complain about that issue.

It is just the way your thought process works.

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

How do you know Priestley doesn't have footy acumen?

And why shouldn't he be on the Selection Panel. He is running the Club. Do you not think he should know the staff the Club is employing and why they were employed. Shouldn't he have an understanding of the Selection process. A process for one of the 3 most important jobs, under his purview.

If they pick a Coach and it all falls apart again in 3 years, where would he start to ask 'Why'? If he wasn't in the 'Room where It Happens' (kudos Lin-Manuel Miranda) what basic understanding would he have for the failure? How does a good Boss trouble shoot a problem without all the facts.

For all we know Priestly might be a silent observer. As the President you want the Face of the Club i.e. the Head Coach to be able to perform well infront of the media. It is an extremely important part of the job. Along with Wins, it helps sell the club to sponsors and supporters. Priestly may well be on the Panel to help tick off on the 'Media' box. Who knows?

You are ranting about Priestly being on the Panel and yet it makes perfect sense in a Multi-million dollar business.

As a former teacher, would you expect the Headmaster to attend the Selection Process for a new Sports Master?

Regards Cazzesman

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

What I would like to know is what is the obsession with Kingsley?
He's coaching a team of Ferrari's, has been gifted top talent in the draft and just lost to the Eagles on the weekend.
Imagine him at Carlton with our list that has obvious holes and nowhere near the talent they have.

Maybe Priestley has footy acumen but I would prefer someone independent like a Bartel
Here is the thing to me and it involves some history that’s important
When Elliott was thrown out in 2002 the club in debt to its eyeballs. So much so that if it wasn’t for the AFL giving us a written guarantee that they would lend us a hand we may become extinct
If it wasn’t for the Mathiesons and Pratt’s financial assistance we would still be in debt
As stated by Swan McKay who was on the official board after Elliott was told to
Pack his bags the boards sole focus was to get out of debt
So football matters and footy performance was forgotten
The problem is that’s still the case.
Case in point
In 2013 Mick Malthouse wanted Carrazzo and Scotland but the board overruled the decision in favour of poster boy Marc Murphy because his face on the merchandise sold more

How the board works as you know is

A board member can be on a board for 12 yearr
Anyone that is over 18 a member and gets 2 referrals from within the club can apply by the last day in August.
At the annual general meeting 2 positions are up for grabs in February the annual general meeting meeting which is the only time the 8 board members front members and coincidentally is the time that corresponds to supporters positive expectations
Most board members are re elected
Of course when your Instagram account is hacked then things can change
When that posit all of a sudden became vacant Tim Lincoln proposed that Mike Fitzpatrick should be the 8 th member
The board members as a collective disagreed
Fitzpatrick was disgusted but worse than that Tim Lincoln left as well


This board really just looks after itself first
They are the one constant in all of this
They escape scrutiny expect for one night in February
I refuse to be member but if 8 people challenged them I would become one and vote them out
My view
My choice

Maybe Priestley has footy acumen but I would prefer someone independent like a Bartel
Here is the thing to me and it involves some history that’s important
When Elliott was thrown out in 2002 the club was in debt to its eyeballs. So much so that if it wasn’t for the AFL giving us a written guarantee that they would lend us a hand we may have become extinct
If it wasn’t for the Mathiesons and Pratt’s financial assistance we would still be in debt
As stated by Swan McKay who was on the official board after Elliott was told to
pack his bags the board’s sole focus was to get out of debt
So football matters and footy performance were forgotten according to to Swan.
The problem is that’s still the case.
The board got us out of debt a few years ago but there is no plan to remove us from the 4 poker machine venues thus Mathiesons influence thus becoming a progressive club in 2026 and beyond
I think the club has done some good stuff but they have been crap as well
Case in point
In 2013 Mick Malthouse wanted Carrazzo and Scotland as captains but the board overruled the decision in favour of poster boy Marc Murphy because his face on the merchandise sold more.
That should not happen


How the board works as you know is

A board member can be on a board for 12 years
Anyone that is over 18 a member and gets 2 referrals from within the club can apply by the last day in August.
At the annual general meeting 2 positions are up for grabs in February which is the only time the 8 board members front members and coincidentally is the time that corresponds to supporters most positive expectations of the year ahead. There is 6 month gap between nominations and elections. Ridiculous
Most board members are re elected
Of course when your Instagram account is hacked then things can change
When that position all of a sudden became vacant Tim Lincoln proposed that Mike Fitzpatrick should be the 8 th member
The board members as a collective disagreed. Michael was probably too smart for them in a footy sense to be a member
Fitzpatrick was disgusted but worse than that Tim Lincoln left as well


This board really just looks after itself first
They are the one constant in all of this
They escape scrutiny except for one night in February
When the club fails onfield they use yet another scapegoat in this case both Voss and Austin as was the case last week for the continual failure of this club’s football performance
I refuse to be member because these people are the problem and escape scrutiny but if 8 people challenged them I would become a member and vote them out
My view
My choice

So why didn't they want Fitzpatrick ? we are crying out for an ex player on the board imho . Still scratching my head on that one .

_________________
All my dangerous friends

_________________
Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Ah well
We disagree about the boards influence

So we want a board full of people with football smarts but we don’t want the board interfering in football related matters?

Makes sense…

_________________
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Maybe our next coaching panel could be made up of people with impeccable financial acumen who we insist have no involvement in the finances?

_________________
“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

8 coaches
7 CEOs in 25 years
Enough said

Enjoy our win against Port on Saturday Keogh?

Or back here whining as usual?

_________________
No Guts, No Glory