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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 9:38 am 
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I dunno, Walshy called him the best leader he's come across in football.

Obviously the results weren't there, but he seems to have had a positive impact on the club and the playing group.

That's gotta count for something?


I don't think his leadership skills were in question.
But that is a small part of coaching. Overall, he was an average coach with below average adaptability.

I still think back to things that Wayne Brittain said about him when he was Voss' senior assistant, and how inflexible and arrogant he was.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 9:50 am 
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We are finally making the right moves. Watch us turn this titanic around sooner than later.


You know the titanic sunk, never turned around, and never made it to port?


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 10:42 am 
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Like he has done with Brisbane previously, he’s left behind a broken club and driven the few talented players we have out to greener pastures.



This resonates with me. Been thinking about this since I read it earlier.

He's left me with broken dreams that's for sure, not sure if we are a broken club. The potential for a better coach to keep the momentum going in 2nd halves seems what is missing. Maybe him leaving opened the door for someone to top up and go again. I hope so.

I believe in at least 20 of our players as the foundation of the future; but that's only 20 of 45. Its obvious SOS and Charlie didn't want to play for him anymore. Not sure how much that hurts, or Vossy's Game Plan and lack of tactical nous.

But he really likes a gamble, and he's a stubborn alpha male; a bull. He put all his chips in that the 3 headed monster Fev Clark & Browny would be fed by greats in their last years of footy Charman, Power, Black, McGrath, Clarke, Sherman, Adcock, Rischitelli, Rockliff, in the hope they would deliver a Flag. They may have done so if Fev didn't go off the rails. We will never know.

Bottom line Vossy is a risk taker, and you could argue its "all or nothing" from Voss.

Its still too early to judge if we are in fact broken, but next year we will know whether we were a broken club when Voss left, or we emancipated ourselves from Voss and played to our potential (over 4 quarters instead of 2).

He's gone.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 10:44 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
We are finally making the right moves. Watch us turn this titanic around sooner than later.


You know the titanic sunk, never turned around, and never made it to port?



:grin:

I'm with Surrey, not with the Titanic analogy, but I think we can turn this around pretty quick, but we need to fill some important gaps with quality: a Ruck, KPF, HB and a Mid, plus another 6 to improve our cover in these plus other positions.

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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 10:53 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
We are finally making the right moves. Watch us turn this titanic around sooner than later.


You know the titanic sunk, never turned around, and never made it to port?


We would have sunk if we kept going and not seen the icebergs.


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 10:59 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
We are finally making the right moves. Watch us turn this titanic around sooner than later.


You know the titanic sunk, never turned around, and never made it to port?



:grin:

I'm with Surrey, not with the Titanic analogy, but I think we can turn this around pretty quick, but we need to fill some important gaps with quality: a Ruck, KPF, HB and a Mid, plus another 6 to improve our cover in these plus other positions.


With our current list as it stands, one KP Forward and one more mid to add to Walker inclusion is all that is needed.
To develop long term, still feel we need a mobile/athletic ruckman - maybe forward / ruck would be gold!!


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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2026 11:10 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
We are finally making the right moves. Watch us turn this titanic around sooner than later.


You know the titanic sunk, never turned around, and never made it to port?



:grin:

I'm with Surrey, not with the Titanic analogy, but I think we can turn this around pretty quick, but we need to fill some important gaps with quality: a Ruck, KPF, HB and a Mid, plus another 6 to improve our cover in these plus other positions.


With our current list as it stands, one KP Forward and one more mid to add to Walker inclusion is all that is needed.
To develop long term, still feel we need a mobile/athletic ruckman - maybe forward / ruck would be gold!!


Agree with KPF and Mid but, apart from bad kicking, we lost our 2nd halves in the ruck imo. We need at least a new No 1 ruck, but both of those types of rucks are needed, whilst O'Keefe is still developing. Plus a line breaking HB. That's why Van Hatton is a beauty for the CB contest. The boy can jump, and that's what is needed at the CB: Pitto can't, Harry can't, HOK can't. They are good around the ground.

We bleed runs of goals from the CB after half time, and the mids, unjustly imo, cop all the blame....and then there's the shocking set shots at goal that kill momentum created from hard work up the ground. It's that black and white to me.

Get me a No 1 Ruck as No 1 priority, and I will be satisfied. Trade for Pick 1 if we have to or Tank if we have to.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 9:14 am 
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I dunno, Walshy called him the best leader he's come across in football.

Obviously the results weren't there, but he seems to have had a positive impact on the club and the playing group.

That's gotta count for something?


With the greatest of respect, I read absolutely nothing into these comments from Walsh. I mean he ain’t exactly going to come out and slag him, is he?

I’ll give Walsh credit, he’s far more genuine when he speaks to the media compared to our captain and Weitering. You can actually see him saying what he’s been instructed to say by the club’s PR department through gritted teeth, he’s sick of the crap but tows the company line.

Also, he’s only previously been coached by Bolton and Teague. Not exactly a strong field for Voss to beat.

I finally had time to watch the full 37 minute interview. I have no doubt that away from footy, Voss is a great bloke and is one of the all time greats on field as a player. But his coaching record and the trail of destruction he’s left at two clubs as a coach speaks for itself.

For him to come out and say that the playing group right now is in a good place, that he’s left the club in a better place than it was when he started, and that he’s introduced elite training standards to the group is just stubborn delusion at best.

He’s won 12 of the last 40 games as coach and driven out a generational key forward among other talented players. His reign even when we were flying was characterised by wild momentum swings and Jekyll/Hyde performances which he couldn’t solve in 4.5 seasons. I mean like it or not, these are the facts.

Best of luck in whatever he does from here, but I’m glad he’s finally gone. Unfortunately, we now have to pick up the pieces and we’re gonna have some pain in the short term at least before things improve.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 10:16 am 
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Who's the generational key forward?


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 10:20 am 
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Jeremy Cameron?

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 10:46 am 
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The 3rd quarters have been our Achilles heel from day one...

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:31 am 
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Ok, so ideally we should keep Voss as coach for three quarters of every game, and have a different coach just for the third quarter?


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:47 am 
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Traveller86 wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
I dunno, Walshy called him the best leader he's come across in football.

Obviously the results weren't there, but he seems to have had a positive impact on the club and the playing group.

That's gotta count for something?


With the greatest of respect, I read absolutely nothing into these comments from Walsh. I mean he ain’t exactly going to come out and slag him, is he?

I’ll give Walsh credit, he’s far more genuine when he speaks to the media compared to our captain and Weitering. You can actually see him saying what he’s been instructed to say by the club’s PR department through gritted teeth, he’s sick of the crap but tows the company line.

Also, he’s only previously been coached by Bolton and Teague. Not exactly a strong field for Voss to beat.

I finally had time to watch the full 37 minute interview. I have no doubt that away from footy, Voss is a great bloke and is one of the all time greats on field as a player. But his coaching record and the trail of destruction he’s left at two clubs as a coach speaks for itself.

For him to come out and say that the playing group right now is in a good place, that he’s left the club in a better place than it was when he started, and that he’s introduced elite training standards to the group is just stubborn delusion at best.

He’s won 12 of the last 40 games as coach and driven out a generational key forward among other talented players. His reign even when we were flying was characterised by wild momentum swings and Jekyll/Hyde performances which he couldn’t solve in 4.5 seasons. I mean like it or not, these are the facts.

Best of luck in whatever he does from here, but I’m glad he’s finally gone. Unfortunately, we now have to pick up the pieces and we’re gonna have some pain in the short term at least before things improve.

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You seeking a reasoned response from Traveller?


How’s that, windy?


Your opinion only.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:51 am 
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"The 3rd quarters have been our Achilles heel from day one..."

Sort of... it started off very much that way with that cumulative dip to around -115 in early 2022, then it improved, then oscillated either side of -50 for nearly 3 years, before crossing -100 again in early 2025 and going into terminal decline. So the heel was pretty well taped and stabilised for a large chunk of the Voss era, albeit never fixed. Now for the surgery.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:52 am 
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The 3rd quarters have been our Achilles heel from day one...


WOW

That an amazing Graph.

In my spare time, I'm going to analyse and compare our ruck contests and CBs in 2026 ist Qtr vs 3rd quarters.

This really stands out as fixable, and a quick turnaround beckons.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:54 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
"The 3rd quarters have been our Achilles heel from day one..."

Sort of... it started off very much that way with that cumulative dip to around -115 in early 2022, then it improved, then oscillated either side of -50 for nearly 3 years, before crossing -100 again in early 2025 and going into terminal decline. So the heel was pretty well taped and stabilised for a large chunk of the Voss era, albeit never fixed. Now for the surgery.


You've obviously done some sums.
I need to discuss this further with you.
Agree. Fixable.

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 11:57 am 
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Who's the generational key forward?


Who are you asking?

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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 12:11 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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Who's the generational key forward?


Who are you asking?


Trav's post above mine: "He’s won 12 of the last 40 games as coach and driven out a generational key forward among other talented players".

I think that generational key forward ceased to be generational at least two years before his departure. And recent performances suggest it wasn't just an anti-Voss thing.


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PostPosted: Sat May 16, 2026 4:40 pm 
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Thank God for that.

Was distraught when we hired him. Had this awful felling that we’d be wasting 3years (his original contract).

Don’t feel sorry for him at all. We were the idiots that hired him. He kept missing out on coaching vacancies and even missed out with us to Bolton.

Has earned a minimum of $4m over 5 years, wasted an opportunity of a flag, he had a reasonable list when he started and the great leader led us all the way to the bottom of the ladder.

Bye bye you can’t coach for peanuts!


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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2026 11:01 am 
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Remember when he said there was very little a coach can do in the last 5 minutes of a game earlier this year?

I guess Fraser and the team didn’t get the memo when they took 3 minutes off the clock late in the last quarter by kicking it around the backline :lol:


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