I did some internet sleuthing to see if that 1.4m figure was verified anywhere. No luck. What's your source on this? And what was he paid in other years to result in such backloading? Presumably we had him playing for a bargain price at least one other year, but you never advertise a positive so we missed it.

With the way the game's going today, filling the team with quick flanker types with good skills is the right move, so I've no worries with a ZW type playing midfield. Can't defend him on the hypochondria, though. Every week he seems to think he's popped his Achilles.

Keogh so predictable.

Keep kicking

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I do like how he's already pre-emptively dismissed any wins that may come our way as meaningless. "I am determined not to get any enjoyment out of football!" Yet we all moan about the culture and mentality of the club, when surely the pursuit and enjoyment of wins is what builds that culture and mentality. I'm sure the players, coaches and management would disagree that it means nothing.

What a conundrum.
I want us to tank, but I can’t help willing a win.
Enjoyed high firing my son in the second half.
It’s a good feeling.

I will be happy watching boys play 2 great quarters and 2 bad.
It proves to prospective coaches and good players the potential of these Blues.

We gave the reigning Premiership a scare.

Umpiring is hopeless.
I thought the AFL enforced new rules re ducking, hands in the back, incorrect disposal.
Ashcroft was embarrassing. The umpire was worse.
Great to see Walsh fly the flag.
I felt there’s still a bit of spirit there,

We start games well when it’s 0-0
We play daring footy when we are chasing.
These boys need to build chemistry.
That first half, the boys didn’t know what they should be doing.

If keogh only saw 2 positives in Haywood and McKay then he really isn’t here for his Footy IQ. He’s Kane Cornes love child. But we love him more than Cornes. If TC was after click bait, keogh is da man.

There’s plenty to like and plenty to dislike.

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It’s as simple as that GE.
There’s more to on field success than an outsiders view of the President.

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Weitering ran hard to be where the ball was instead of minding the square.
He played in a way to shake off the stigma of selfishness.
Good to see.

Loved Cerra as a HBF
Thought he was a shining light back ther.
Bigger body, mobile, good mark, and most important a good penetrating kick.
Bender, in the 3rd the ball hardly went to Brizzys forwadline.
In the last Cerra was freed up in the ball with plenty of juice in the tank
Well played Voss

As soon as we saw Harry launching for marks or halve the contest he was on, and at that stage he hadn’t gone into the ruck to ‘get into the game’. His mindset had shifted before he ran onto the ground.
Pity we lost him at times when he was ruckingl.
I don’t mind Harry in the ruck, but a CHF, who is on, imo should only be rucking to mix things up, not robbing our forwardline of a great marking target for 30% game time.

Pitto rucked too long and fatigued again. Regardless, in the first half Draper and Fort gave their mids free run from CB and lucky for us they were a tad inaccurate.

We need a mobile jumping ruck for CB, Pitto rucking around the ground, and Harry to mix things up or get him into the game if he’s playing like he has prior to last night. Harry was competitive in the ruck at best. We need to improve the standard of the 2nd ruck. Harry doesn’t jump to win ruck contests and he’s not strong enough to win best position against rucks bigger than him. It’s just a fact of life.

If I was going to pinpoint an area where we lost the game it’s in the ruck. Draper and Fort won the battle, gave their mids plenty of ball to run onto and hit up forwards, kicked goals floating forward, not as KPFs, leaving their KPF to kick 4 goals.

Levi Kemp, I mean Brodie Casboult was back with those classic drop punts. Embarrassing. Someone should tell him to loosen up, stop being so stiff and run in to kick drop punts….or he’s going to lose his spot. He’s such a good presence. No good if you miss easy goals and lose games off their boot

14 games to go.

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Here is the thing
Carlton have a core of what I think our very good young footballers
Wilson
Ison
Charleston
Byrne
O’Keefe
Flynn Young
Carroll
Cowan
Smith
Dean
O’ Farrell
Ben Campo
Lord
Moir
Derkson
That’s a good list of kids to build on
But it won’t happen with a muppet like Voss
The potential is there to rise again but that involves some tough decisions that won’t appease our bunch
Of corporates at board level
Cripps and Weitering need to be traded
You could potentially get 3 picks in the first 20 in this years draft before the heavily compromised draft of 2027
Wright needs a complete free reign to do this
He would know but so many people before him have had their football decisions overridden by the board
Voss is not up to it as coach
Surely the last 2 years proves that to any sane supporter
Don’t forget that Vosss appointment in the first place was due to the board having the final say over Kingsley because Voss is a bigger name
Money
This board has its own interest at heart first
So it doesn’t matter if we a good loss or a couple of wins
It’s treading water as usual
We have a core of really good kids
But the longer Voss is there the worse it is for their development on and off the field
Wilson did some ok things last night for a 5 gamer
I can see upside in him
He played 49% game time last night including almost @#$%&! all in the last when Florent was injured and as usual turning it over
That’s on Voss
The sooner he is gone the better but the board stays
I know Fitzpatrick was asked by a member to go on the board
The board said no and that board member is no longer there

What I’m saying is is there is imo an opportunity to turn things around relatively quickly which is a positive but involves some tough decisions on some senior players being traded getting the best coach available based on footy and not marketing
Wright is the man to do this but this board will undoubtedly stand in the way
So to me wins are meaningless against average opposition

I had the same observation about Weitering too, I thought he was really trying to impact the game and not go into his shell. He’s not a leader, but he improved.

Claude says…

There is no verification because it’s meant to be private
Williams contract was back ended
Here say
Rumour
How do you know
Just saving posters the effort in posting back
He is on 1.4 million this year
His contract was around 5.4 million over 6 years which ends in 2026
So around $900000 a season
Ridiculous

Rumours!!!

I love rumours! Facts can be so misleading, where rumours, true or false, are often revealing.

That’s what he is on
Fact is it’s a ridiculous contract
Everyone knows that
Even Sidex knows that

A pretty good result in the end, I was expecting a belting.
I watched until about midway through the 3rd quarter, we kicked 11 goals after that. Maybe I should have gone to be earlier.
I have watched the replay and there was a lot to like about the second half.
I only just read about Walsh on here so hopefully he is ok.

I mean, you clearly weren't an English teacher. Obviously didn't teach media literacy. Christ I hope it wasn't maths

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

So 1.4 million this year means we only paid him 800,000 a year for 5 years. Seems reasonable if he hadn’t been injured so many times.
Anyway, I’m glad you confirmed that you were wrong and were not paying him 1.4million a year over his contract like you claimed.

No. No one knows that. It's an unsubstantiated load of shit.
You have absolutely no idea what Zac Williams is being paid this year. Nor would anyone else here I'd suggest.
By all means critique his footy but try to stick to what is real. Not pretend "facts".

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I do know as do other supporters in the know
We have had this discussion before
It’s private but it’s known
Just another example of how deluded this club is
Good on Zac hope he has set his family up with it

There is a lot of things that your not meant to know but do
Word of mouth from reliable credible sources resources
I knew the club was rooted inside but not as bad as I thought

Blue Vain I understand how you feel about the club
You are sick of people like me being negative
You look for a glimmer of hope through stats

But the club cannot move forward properly without a change at board level
People with footy knowledge that care about the club first and foremost

Doesn’t happen with these 8 individuals
You do know that changing the constitution was tried by this board a few years back so that 5000 members had to vote for an alternative ticket to challenge these people
Thank god it was derailed and the number 100 has stayed

The board meddles with football decisions that effect on field performance not to mention a selfish culture

Pros:

Ball movement was pretty good.
Liked seeing Harry and Cowan around the ball.
Nice to finish a game strongly.
Harry's rediscovered that he's a good player.
Walsh, Newman, Heywood, Hollands, Ainsworth, Smith, McGovern.
Thought it was Cerra's best game for a while.
Couple of flashes from Wilson.

Cons:

Defensive intensity again. 38 tackles is very poor. Quality of tackles poor as well. So many times we tackle and the opposition player distributes it to a teammate.
Centre clearances again.
Wasted opportunities early again.
So many handballs missing the target.
Kemp's set shot kicking.
Home crowd umpiring.

English?

What does this even mean?

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