solid plan, leaving hok out. young was our best SF last season. daylight second.

i'd have saad over wilson if he's fit. his only instructions need be is: run.

OUT: Young, O’Keeffe, Boyd, Byrne

IN: Weitering, Dean, Hayward, F.Young


Backs: Weitering, Dean, Haynes, Cowan, Newman, Florent

Mids: Cripps, Cerra, Walsh, Smith, Carroll, O.Hollands, F.Young

Rucks: Pittonet, Derksen

Forwards: McKay, Kemp, McGovern, Williams, E.Hollands, Hayward, Evans, Ainsworth


I think ruck/forward is a more natural role for Derksen.
Could go the additional small ahead of Kemp or McGovern. The high half forwards are where we’re losing connection.

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Darcy Cameron is the only 200cm forward we need to curb. Someone mentioned he’s a CHB? Is that right? I thought the young ruck came in to allow Cameron to be a target.

I’ve lost interest in other teams as I struggle to understand and define our current state.

Weitering in, and Haynes back, if we want Young forward/ ruck, we can bring in Dean and drop Derksen. OKeefe has not done enough to carry him imo.

I’d like to see Saad back for this game. We can do with his genuine speed in backline. Not convinced Boyd is the same player he was.he looked loose and that stupid kick that didn’t make it to Haynes on a full told his kicking, his weapon, has failed him.

I’d also bring Hayward back because he’s got a lot to play for, and he’s due/ owes us a few goals.

Want a few goals from Harry. I think Harry and Gov to spend time in goal square. Mix it up. Ditto Ainsworth. Kemp can use his pace to provide a link with backline. If he’s not lucky, he’s lost.

Byrne for Hayward. Flynn Young could be worth a look. Evans missed shot at goal annoyed me. Cost us the game imo.

We can win this. I look forward to watching game….on TV.

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I love the Tank, but it's fair to say he's been rusty since returning from injury, certainly not at the level he showed post-May KO. I've been looking for a way to get F Young into the team and giving Frank some time in the 2nds to regain his form might be the way.

What I would like to see without looking at their possible team.

FB: O.Hollands Weitering Saad
HB: Newman Haynes Dean
C: O.Florent Cripps Carroll
HF: Ainsworth McLovin Hayward
F: Evans McKay F.Young
Following: Pitto Walsh Smith
Bench: Williams Cerra L.Young E Hollands Lord

In: Weitering Dean Saad F.Young Hayward Lord
Out: Boyd Byrne Derksen Kemp HOK Cowan

That's pretty close to how I would like it.

Our lowest ranked players last week according to Supercoach were Byrne, Derkson, McKay, O'Keeffe, Cowan, Boyd and Kemp. I'm not sure if you were looking at that. You have got rid of six of them and kept McKay. Let's hope he turns his form around.

I'd like to see Wilson over Saad. Hewitt hasn't done much wrong, but they could bring in Lord as you've suggested. It would be nice to see Flynn in and a more dynamic forward line.

That's six changes. Vossy tends to only do two. So let's see what happens.

We need a solution for when Cripps is resting on the bench. We went to water last week. Jagga needs more midfield time.

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Interesting, I don't usually look at those rankings.
My reasons were based on eye test, stats and the need for more firepower in F50 and better defenders.
Byrne needs a rest, he was a bit absent last week.
Derksen needs to settle into the team a bit more, he's a good stop gap but when Weiters and Dean are available he's out.
McKay, as he probably knows he's not that replaceable.
HOK had a stinker.
Cowan, this was a tough one as he had 400+meters gained but he still made costly errors (55% DE), plus Saad can be much more damaging off half back.
Boyd, not sure what is up with him but his kicking let him down a few times last week, ultimately he just had no impact.
Kemp, although he had 2 goal assists and he was a bit of a decoy target, he is just not damaging at all as the 2nd or 3rd banana. Maybe a rest in the 2s might redirect his focus.
I would've liked to bring Ison in for a run, but not this game.

Hewett unlucky again unless we take a leaf out of Essendons* book.
Last week the cheats* showed how a contested game with chip kicking and maintaining possession can shut down the fast running teams.
They had 100 more disposals, 80 more kicks, 60 more marks, with similar handballs and i50s.
But where it counts they had 13% more efficiency and 4 more tackles i50.
Because our transition is so slow at times we really need to focus on keeping McKay in F50 as well as McLovin and have the mids, wings and half forwards just chip it around with the backs if necessary until they find a target or a better chance for the smalls to crumb at the feet of the McKay or Pitto/L.young.
The players need to be able to asses when they can push forward at all costs and when they should hold the ball up and chip around.
Something they have seemed to struggle with a fair bit the last 2 years.
The only downside to this plan is our players inability to kick the ball to each other and hit them lace out.
It is defiantly a way to dismantle them and plays into our 1 wood.
Something to consider either way and I'm not sure if it will work with every one of the faster teams.
But it is definitely worth taking the chip kicking possession game on a little more when the flow is against us and the opposition is having their usual run on us.
We might be able to stay in the game a bit longer in those lull times.

There’s a glaring lack of skill and speed , simply stated our boys are sluggish and rudimentary in their approach.
It’s embarrassing after struggling for well over a decade with the same deficiencies that they have not been addressed.
Coaching and Recruiting too are stark weakness.
Next few years will be bumpy and transitional.
However one must have faith that GW & CD will slowly turn our juggernaut around it will take patience and time.
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Why does Haywood deserve a game

The same reason Kemp has.
Who else do we have?

Coz no one in the Magoo's is bashing' the door down bar Flynn Young . Besides Hayward is a proven player in a completely different environment . He's adjusting and he will come good .

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Problem with Hayward is that he is fighting with McGovern or even Kemp as the 3rd forward, although we are playing Kemp as the 2nd KP.
When you recruit players you need to understand your list and where they belong and what role they will fill. Just like Hewett and Setterfield trades.

I usually agree with most of your stuff Surrey. I think we are both a glass half full types who love our players, and witnessed the Golden eras. but I don't think Hayward is competing with Kemp or Gov for a spot. Personally, I think its Gov vs Kemp and Gov is the stand out. IMO only way we could play both is if HOK and Young don't play KPF, but who is our 2nd ruck? Not Kemp FFS. I dont like Harry as the chop out ruck when Charlie was around, and certainly don't now he's flying solo KPF.

Hayward isn't a 3rd tall forward target.

Harry 202cm No 1 KPF
OKeefe/ Young No 2 KPF

Kemp 193cm a tall target
McGovern 190cm a marking target

Hayward 186cm Fast mid sized forward who can take a good mark for his size and kick goals.....when forward
Williams 186cm Classy mid sized player who can kick a goal

Ainsworth 179cm small forward. pacy. good engine, can kick a goal...when forward

Evans, F.Young are small forwards banging on the door.
Prior to round 1 I would have thought Evans was more valuable than Gov, because Kemp could be the 3rd tall.

Moy sure what you mean with your last sentence.

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Great summary sidey. I like your team. I share same thoughts re Cowan. He was a good accurate long kick, and has become a desperate bomber of the ball. There's the metres gained. He hasn't been playing well this year. Not even in the VFL. I think jis timing in the air is improving; he was a bit off previous weeks. Sadly, I think he's lost some pace. I'd take Saads pace and elusiveness to find time to hit a target than Cowan's reckless kicking.

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I really thought he was the missing key in the forwardline and in his first game back, in spectacles and knee bandage, he showed his tricks, but he hasnt showed form with his kicking. He couldn't miss the goals last year. That soda he missed in the last confirmed to me he's not 100% back, and his short passes are not hitting tits and falling short. He needs the kicking weapon and I want him hungrier than that. I have Evans ahead of Byrne at the minute, and I'd try Fynn ahead of Evans this week, but I can't pass on Hayward (who knows he owes us, and is better than his H&A form). Who else to drop for Fynn?

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THURSDAY, APRIL 16
Carlton v Collingwood at the MCG, 7.30pm AEST

CARLTON

In: J.Weitering, W.Hayward, H.Dean
Out: W.Derksen (omitted), J.Boyd (omitted), H.O'Keeffe (omitted)

COLLINGWOOD

In: E.Allan, W.Hayes
Out: S.Sidebottom (hip), J.De Goey (concussion)

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We can drop Evans and Byrne for Hayward and F Young

Edit: too late!

So no Boyd or Saad, guess Newman will do all the kicking. L Young forward ruck I assume

Does Voss hate Boyd as much as Weiters hates Young?

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I'm guessing the in form Lewis Young will be our FF/2nd ruck

OK, things are starting to look normal with Weitering and Newman in backline

Feel we are stacked with forwards by keeping Evans and Byrne in the team with Hayward, Ainsworth and Williams.
So I expect Williams to continue playing in the midfield group.

I think we are a good chance as long as someone stops Howe when he plays forward. He's selected to play FB...too short for Young and Harry.

Haven't checked weather in Melbourne.

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