Top 5 is Annable, Ulwand, Duursma, CDT, Patterson but somehow Dean is going to be bid at 3. There are no words…..

We tell Wet Toast we are going after Harley and Duursma in a few years time. Yasmin link.

And we need to verbally tell them to their face.

No way is Dean a top 3.

Stupid AFL allow dummy bidding. Wish we weren’t so invested otherwise we let them have him. Some team will do that one day to call a teams bluff and then everyone will be weary.

But obviously we wouldnt do that to the kid.

I'd put a few more ahead of him as well. Dean is a good defender in that Nick Maxwell was a good defender. They're a similar player.

Hard to blame the Eagles here, but they should put in bids on every single one of the aforementioned players.

It’s the Carlton tax im afraid.

Frucking hell . The same Nick Maxwell that Collingwood picked up in the rookie draft ?

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I always knew being the soft touch nice guys at the trade table would pay off one day..ohh

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Yes I get the WC hate and we should remember this and not forget but if we get Dean and ISON and a future 2nd round pick plus someone else in round 3 of draft it’s still an excellent haul
Hopefully that 3rd round pick is ok

I assume Austin and the team know what they’re doing.
And if West Coast is serious about bidding on Harry at no.3, it narrows our (realistic) options…
I do think that West Coast are threatening this in order to force us to trade out (maybe they are planning a secondary trade with, say, Essendon* after we trade our pick to them…) or perhaps just so that we have to effectively burn our 2nd pick as well as our 1st which bumps their mid-teen pick up a couple of spots…

However, I’d still be tempted to not do any trades, see where the bids come in and go from there.
Worst case, we have to burn our early picks, we end up with Dean and Ison but without additional cover for next year’s draft.
Best case, the bid for Dean comes later eg pick 7, 8 or later, and we are able to pick up Dean, Ison plus another first rounder such as Dovaston, Lindsay, Schubert etc…

It sounds like we’re planning a middle ground option: do the trades, get Dean and ISON but also secure an additional pick/points to use next year to secure Walker. It is also possible that we rate next year’s crop significantly better than this year and would prefer Kangaroos’ 2nd round pick next year than a late teens pick this year…

I guess they know better than I do what other clubs are actually planning and what our strategic needs are.
Glad I’m not the one in the hot seat!

Was thinking the same thing

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Sun Tze -

In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity.

Victory comes from finding opportunities in problems.

Nothing really changes. The plan was for Dean and Ison. We will get them both regardless of who does what.

As always, any other pick between 20 and 35 is the great unknown, as far as how their career will turn out.

I am supremely confident the Recruiting team along with Wright and Davies will have run through all the simulations and 'what if's'.

What we should all be telling ourselves is............how good is it that we have a father/son this year and next, that every other team wants on their lists. What does it say about the caliber of Dean, that a team inside the top 3 or 5 might be willing to use a valuable pick on?

Everyone should be happy that is the case, not frustrated. They all want what we have. That hasn't happened in a long time.

WCE should really just take Dursma and 2 Dads and sit back with huge grins on their faces. They can then high five each other for the next 90 minutes, while they wait to see what is left over for their 3rd pick.

Regards Cazzesman

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

If the bid on Ison is earlier than expected then we are likely to only end up with Dean and Ison (no 3rd rounder) and go into next year with a small deficit.

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Humpers I think that is why Austin and Co are looking at the deals with Essendon* and North to get more picks/points.

The draft is all about Points these days. The Picks are just there to manipulate the points required.

As a reminder of the apparent proposal..............

Old rivals Carlton and Essendon* look set to engage in a trade on the eve of the AFL draft, according to AFL.com.au's Cal Twomey.

The deal is also set to include North Melbourne, and will see the Blues send pick nine to Essendon*, and pick 11 to the Kangaroos.

In return, Essendon* are expected to send a late first and early second round pick (likely 21, 27 and 30), while the Roos would part ways with pick 25 and a future second.

The return for Carlton will see them accumulate more points, which will allow them to match a bid for father-son prospect Harry Dean, who is expected to be selected before Carlton are on the clock.

Regards Cazzesman

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Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Enough with this victim mentality.

In hindsight we probably could have done a better job in 'hiding' Harry Dean this year.
At the start of the year I assume we didn't realise that he was going to turn out to be the best key defender in the draft.

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You crack me up

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I'm confused

You are or you're not critical of SOS redrafting his failures?

SOS has a blatant achilles heal. Arrogance.

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This is an observation...yeah nah

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Just another example of interference by the Commissioners of the AFL.

They have to go. They don't need to be exposed. They are blatantly corrupting the results.

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