See Great Ex’s post above.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Current state of play…

Total under contract: 34
P: 29
Cat (A): 4 - O’Keeffe (4th yr), Lord, Carroll, Evans (all 2nd yr)
Cat (B): 1 - Duffy (2nd yr)

Total vacancies: 10
P: 7 - 9
R: 1 - 3

In limbo: 5
P: McGovern
Cat (A): Charleson, White, F.Young (all 2nd yr)
Cat (B): Monahan (3rd yr)

Confirmed targets: 5 (all primary list)
T/FA: 3 - Campbell Chesser, Liam Reidy, Buku Khamis
ND: 2 - Harry Dean, Jack Ison

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Oh. Sorry SB. I'll just change feet...................this one time.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

He’s coached 203 senior games (94 as Carlton coach), he was also at Port in assistant roles for 6 years. Do you think he’s going to come out next year and have improved significantly? How much more patient do I need to be?

I believe 1 more listed, contracted player will be traded.
I suspect we still need picks to complete the required trades etc. You'd think the TDK compo will be moved for a 2026 pick because Cody Walker will be the priority. Even with the possible trading of other 2026 selections, I think we'll still be a bit light on to complete the deals we want done this year.

Unless Charlie moves, which throws it all up in the air again.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

If we got
Dean Ison Chesser Reidy Khamis
then Walker + 2 next year

I think Curnow may very well be on the table or maybe Cerra? Gov will go I think if something is offered.

this is taking into account the TDK and SOS picks.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

We certainly have out work cut out for us this and leading into next year.

Is Austin shrewd enough to handle it?

I dont know. Am nervous.

Yeh how is WC getting an end of 1st round pick and 4 rookie picks. Wowee we never got any help. At least WC won a premiership in the last 10 years.

Us nothing and losing players too. Will the AFL be generous to us with free agency picks. I doubt it.

As patient as Brisbane was with Fagan, since that seems to be your benchmark.

Perplexity told me 86 Carlton games, damn hallucinating LLM....

Actually, it was from the previous posts, the comparison to Fagan.

So if Brisbane’s patience is the benchmark, Voss needs a PF as a minimum to remain.

Where will his improvement come from?

A better list, player culture and less injuries to key players. If we can't improve in those areas the coach won't matter, not even if we recruit Chris Fagan to coach the team for 2026

Everyone can improve, but it's on them to accept their deficiencies and find a way to move forward.

What drives their culture?

How did Swann turn the Lions around whilst we floundered?

They brought in Hodge and other successful veterans with premiership experience to guide and develop their young guns they got for nix.

Why would these names come to Carlton as onfield coaches under Voss, Bolton or Teague?

We have too many mouth breathers in the coteries with a voice due to their cash.

AFL gives the Lions everything they need, yet we couldn't manage it off the field until after Swann left.

Case in point is how feral some of our fans have been towards Curnow since he asked for a trade. We wouldn't have been as patient with Rayner as a former pick one. Look at what our early picks have had to deal with. In Brisbane, Rayner probably doesn't carry the same pressure as our former pick ones or the draftees who land at a big four club in Melbourne. Gibbs and Murphy should have landed at a Geelong, Hawthorn or Brisbane where they would have played, but been given more time to develop without being the burden of being the chosen ones and saviours. Gibbs didn't get get a proper apprenticeship. Straight into the leadership group.

Agree with this
Curnow shouldn’t be allowed on
the leadership group even before wanting out
That comes back people above him
Culture starts from the top

If Curnow is hoping to get to a successful Geelong, get ready to be disappointed my son. Getting caned in a Grand Final does not bode well for the thrashed team.
If Geelong had lost by 20-30 points then he could have had some confidence the team was still going to be up and about in 2026, but if I was a player in his circumstance I wouldn't go to either Sydney or Geelong as both suffered bad grand final losses. Brisbane kicked 9 goals in the last quarter!! that must be close to a record quarter score.


https://footyology.com.au/when-grand-fi ... irst-loss/

Kane Cornes talks about losing the 2007 GF here...

“The emotional scars and impact of losing that grand final in 2007 probably set the club back five or six years, and some of the players never recovered from the performance on that day.”

Five on the bench in 2026…

Room for 2 rucks....................

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

So sixth (sub) on the bench in 2028?

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

Only if that player measures between 185 and 187cm in basketball shoes, with no fewer than one sideburn.

The player must also perform five rotations before entering the field, whereupon he will be limited to the painted logo, for up to 20,000 seconds across the season. Any unused seconds may be rolled over to a 27th player in the 2030 season, temporarily excluding Gather Round until such time as there are enough beds in Keith.

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Mitch Cleary
@cleary_mitch

Carlton has asked the question of Collingwood free agent Jamie Elliott who is also considering strong interest from Gold Coast.
Any Blues move for Elliott would not offset the compensation for Tom De Koning given the size of TDK’s St Kilda deal
@7NewsMelbourne @7AFL

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So due to size of TDK contract, why cant they give us an extra pick then? Oscar allen is giving WC pick 2 for goodness sakes.