Yeah , let people run there own lives .

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Fair enough.
History has proven where there is sport there is gambling, that will never change, human greed will see to that.
And history has also proven where there is sport there is sponsorship and usually it is the companies supplying the vices as they have the most money - tobacco, alcohol, gambling or in your example, oil.
He has a point (as well as a business to protect) and so do you, I guess you just have to be comfortable with which one goes against your morals the least.

Our pokies are a stain on the club and the club knows it.

Carlton was one of the first clubs to end an association with sports betting agencies.

Carlton stands up with a straight face and send its players and coach out to say Carlton Respects means something.

All while benefitting from pokies and the problems they bring, including the association with family violence.

I understand the financial benefit the club has taken from the pokies and the at times financial lifeline that has offered us.

I want the club to be better. If it's going to keep telling us that Carlton Respects is genuine, then the pokies have to go.

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Not to mention our association with Barkly Smokehouse and That's Amore.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Disappointed to see some on here supporting Matheson's drug dealer's defence.

Let others do it. The AFL, with Carlton included, can say that they don't support the gambling industry, and make their money elsewhere. I find it hard to believe that such a hugely popular sport can't turn a profit through other means - Matheson is hardly an independent quality researcher.

But what will we do without whaling?

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The answer is simple, replace the 10m with another stream, any stream.
Until then, stop whining unless you want the club to be run by the AFL again.

Whine.

So is anyone looking into it?

14-15 other clubs without them...sorry, let's preempt the small-clubs-already-owned-by-AFL argument and whittle that number down...there are other major players out there that don't rely on pokies.

Systemic change often comes from small steps. Make some calls, Blues, look like you're doing something, and tell Matheson the fun's over.

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thx for starting this thread.

will be back to ridicule the many bad faith arguments and clear thinking fails attempted in defence of Carlton’s $10m dependency on pokie machine revenue. some people on this site have got no idea what a logical fallacy is. no wonder pokies are still popular with a cohort in our Blue Bagger community, inability for coherent though needn’t be a barrier to entry for anybody!

Robert Walls was one of the best players of the game ever and as captain coach of Fitzroy he taught primary school and was my after school cricket coach for a couple of years. sure the game has changed, but was it a terrible game for the lack of professional, sorry, stratospheric salaries for players, coaching staff, administrators and all the hangers on at AFL House?

there’s so much money outside of the problematic industries (gambling, alcohol, fossil fuels…) who only advertise with Carlton and other Clubs or entree into sponsorships for the sole reason that your kids are very impressionable, your kids idolise the players of AFL, and putting the dodgy logo on Crippa, or Charlie, or Sadie, or Harry’s jumper normalises an industry that is on the nose and young adults are turning their backs on in the job market, so tarnished are the reputations of many of these problematic corporations.

Ampol im looking at you. not the worst of a very bad lot when it comes to multinational Fossil corporation but the entire industry lobby as one to run climate denial propaganda and fix against progressive and appropriate legislative unitives to transition economies away from FF dependency ASAP.

the push back on Climate policy in Austrlalia which reaches deep into all three major parties in all kinds of grey-corruption type way includes the Labor Party such that WA Labor, on behalf of foreign owned entities like Chevron, Woodside and local mining money like Gina Reinhardt, was able to convince Federal Labor to abandon the decade long policy to review the much documented, repeated failures of Environmental law to protect the environment in Australia, and to make climate change a consideration within applications under the EPA Act. Just like that, a decade of work within Labor by LEAN and all manner of NGOs etc thrown out the window by Albanese bc WA Labor pollies got cold feet (and many WA Labor MPs are some of the most disingenuous pretenders, acting for corporate interests, who you will ever meet).

but who cares if in 2050 playing outdoor sporting games in many counties will need to make allowances for extremes of weather interrupting their entire playing season each year. and that’s the least of catastrophic outcomes that even just 2.0 °C (which is now a virtual certainty and much higher can still potentially combe reached with emissions still rising and the long lag between emissions reduction and lowering of heating impact) will unlock on most nations. regular drop failures lead to famines and mega-sized mass migrations of populations, especially in poorer countries. th r Syrian civil war was largely precipitated by repeated crop failure and mass migrations of destroyed farming communities to Damascus, when infrastructure couldn’t cope and political tensions became extreme. Can happen everywhere and anywhere given a tipping point in climatic disruption.

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Don't worry Diesel (funny name given the topic you raised). When it's hot in Melbourne for a few days we'll get a cool change and it will drop 20 degrees in 10 mins.

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I love this club in some ways as much as I did growing up.

But pokies? Nup. Get with it Blues.

“Pokies are designed for high intensity use (fast play, high losses per hour, structural features that encourage persistence).
• This means that a minority of players generate the majority of losses:
• About 40% of pokie revenue comes from people experiencing problem gambling.”