You want to add a slow player that easily gets pushed off the ball and has kicking issues to an already slow midfield that does not kick goals or hit targets i50?
This is the exact overvaluing of our players I have been talking about, leave Ollie in defence.
Williams, Elijah both quick and skilful and Lord, Jagga and Walsh are no brainers.

12-13 years in, that old dog ain’t learning any new tricks.

If he won’t come out of the midfield, then play him in the ruck.

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https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1861443/speed-and-skill-wilson-signs-on

Congrats to Billy for another year. I haven't really seen it yet, but glad the club has faith in him.

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That's a good call . Give him time . Watching the Magoo's on a regular basis you can see the improvement .

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Ollie’s faster than Elijah and Lord. Sometimes…..

Again Lloyd on the footy show with the same dribble about getting rid of curnow/McKay. We have a huge advantage over most sides and we should give that away. Maybe we should just teach them how to work with each over and the rest of the forward line. Coaching

Even if we were to get rid of them, this draft is not the one to be able to cash in

We can trade for players or future picks though

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When they are on the bench?

Harry can be so good but always seems to miss chunks of games and takes a while to get back into it.

We have some exceptional players on our list we just need an even break when it comes to them being injured.
Would love to see a run of 12 to 14 games with all our key players on the park.

It just seems year after year we can't get an even break

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Playing Ollie in the middle where it's contested will force him to use his hands more and kick less, which could be the best thing for him.

I'm not saying he plays there full time, but I don't see the harm in him rotating through there more often.

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I really worry what games you watch.

Ollie mightn't be explosive but he is not slow!

Except for the fact he gets pushed off the ball to easily.
He needs to put on some weight before he can make an impact inside.
Plus we don't need another inside mid hanballing, we have too many of those already.
We need speed and skill by foot.

If you think Ollie is quick it is no wonder you think Voss can't coach.
If Ollie was quick and had good foot skills, he'd have stayed on the wing or be in the centre/half forward.
There is a reason he is in defence and there is also a reason our D50 transition is not as smooth as other teams.
The kid goes hard, has good run but like many others on our team lacks a few qualities for us to be able to play a different game style.
His best position is in defence so far, so let's leave him there.

We don't need top speed in the centre, we need burst speed and agility.

Ollie's problem is that he seems to have only one speed and cannot shift gears when required

I don't think he can and has been my point since his debut.

Maybe some off season training like Crippa had to increase his speed and agility could help a little, he's still young enough to have a crack at it.
A ton of work on his kicking and decision making wouldn't go astray either.
He's getting better, but only to what is expected as bare minimum of an AFL footballer in other clubs, definitely not elite.
Hopefully another solid off-season and he will step it up a level.

So now it's not about just pace but his foot skills - yet Voss plays him as the distributor off the half back line.
Then you say Voss can coach - let's see if Voss gets an extension next year?

ps. It's a bit like the StKilda supporters are so happy they signed NLM for 2 years. Wonder what the discussion will be in 2027? Only another 12 months.

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1868382

On the Club’s areas to address this off-season:

“We need some depth, that’s been a priority for us. It’s going back a long way: we thought the durability of the list wasn’t where it needed to be last year, we had too many soft-tissue injuries and went to work on that as a list.

“Unfortunately we’ve had a lot of different trauma injuries this year, but it has felt like we’ve controlled what we need to control and we think our high performance and medical team has done an amazing job managing our year and the program they’ve put around our players. We’ve been a little bit unlucky, and we need to ride that bit out and be really strong on the things that have worked for us within the program and keep doubling down on the things that make our program stronger.

“Ideally we want to bring in some speed and ball use. That’ll be nice on the edges to bring that. It’s nice that we’ve got some guys that haven’t played a lot of football this year that we can bring into the team immediately, which will be a difference for us in that area. Cottrell, Smith, Walsh has come back and you see the impact he has. We haven’t had these players for a lot of the year.

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