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Details of Pies offer revealed: Silvagni may have played his last game in navy blue

Significantly, Collingwood’s financial offer is almost identical to that of the Blues – both offers are in the mid-$600,000 per season – which means Silvagni’s decision will have little to do with money.

Multiple sources at clubs, and those close to Silvagni, suggested it was unlikely he and Carlton would be able to mend their relationship and extend his time at the Blues into 2026.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 8:47 pm 
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SOS was notorious for leaking to Sam Maclure when he was with us.
Looks like nothing has changed.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Effes wrote:
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/details-of-pies-offer-revealed-silvagni-may-have-played-his-last-game-in-navy-blue-20250728-p5mifr.html

Details of Pies offer revealed: Silvagni may have played his last game in navy blue

Significantly, Collingwood’s financial offer is almost identical to that of the Blues – both offers are in the mid-$600,000 per season – which means Silvagni’s decision will have little to do with money.

Multiple sources at clubs, and those close to Silvagni, suggested it was unlikely he and Carlton would be able to mend their relationship and extend his time at the Blues into 2026.


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unlikely he and Carlton would be able to mend their relationship


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:27 pm 
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Honestly, whole Silvagni clan can GAGF as far as I'm concerned.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2025 9:36 pm 
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Traveller86 wrote:
Honestly, whole Silvagni clan can GAGF as far as I'm concerned.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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SOS was the heart & Soul of our Club. He was the only player that gave his heart out when half the team didn't give a Crap...

SO, for him to want out, just shows how Serious the Situation at our club and how our Culture is beyond repair!

We all want Serious Change, including letting go of some Senior Players, but for SOS to want out, I think the Changes coming will only make us Worse ( Culture Wise ). How much Worse could it get??


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Dodo27 wrote:
SOS was the heart & Soul of our Club. He was the only player that gave his heart out when half the team didn't give a Crap...

SO, for him to want out, just shows how Serious the Situation at our club and how our Culture is beyond repair!

We all want Serious Change, including letting go of some Senior Players, but for SOS to want out, I think the Changes coming will only make us Worse ( Culture Wise ). How much Worse could it get??


this x 100

the collapse of this club is as bad as when we got malthouse

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Traveller86 wrote:
Honestly, whole Silvagni clan can GAGF as far as I'm concerned.
The offer to TDK from SOS and now JSOS wants out goes back to the dispute that happened with Cain Liddle and the board backed Cain over SOS

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Dodo27 wrote:
SOS was the heart & Soul of our Club. He was the only player that gave his heart out when half the team didn't give a Crap...

SO, for him to want out, just shows how Serious the Situation at our club and how our Culture is beyond repair!

We all want Serious Change, including letting go of some Senior Players, but for SOS to want out, I think the Changes coming will only make us Worse ( Culture Wise ). How much Worse could it get??


A heart and soul Carlton man would tell Collingwood to @#$%&! off when he hears their footsteps approaching.

If he walks to them for non-financial reasons, he never was the heart and soul.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Traveller86 wrote:
Honestly, whole Silvagni clan can GAGF as far as I'm concerned.
The offer to TDK from SOS and now JSOS wants out goes back to the dispute that happened with Cain Liddle and the board backed Cain over SOS

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The board backed neither, because it was stupid.

They both got the flick. The fact that one went before the other is a reflection of the difference in title.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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I have to admit, this news is really disappointing on 2 fronts.

It's obvious the club is in disarray for such a well-known club man to want out, and secondly the fact we have let all these internal issues slip so far, is an indictment on the current Board, CEO and management team. I'm also sure some will sell it as the Silvagni family's fault, as they have already but how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


He’s had an offer in front of him for ages and it’s an offer that’s clearly market rate if the Pies offer is similar.

How is that the club’s fault? They can’t force him to sign.

Are you saying we should have overpaid him?

This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2025 8:57 am 
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Jagga, HOF, Cowan, Carroll, Campo's, Harry Dean, Cody Walker, HOK, Ollie, Moir, Wilson, Lord, Charleson, Walsh etc plus a probable big trade this year.
It will be their club in 2 years time.
Get rid of any underachievers or dissenters now who don't want to be a part of it. 4 years at 600k is more than Jack is worth to us. If that's not good enough, on your bike. When SOS got the arse, Jack openly showed his disdain to the club. If he hasn't got over it, get him out of the joint before it infects others.
He can go join his mate Houston (and trust me, we dodged a bullet there)

Personally, I hope the club is ruthless. Any dissenters, sooks or those who are looking for problems instead of solutions, get them out as well. It's a small step backwards to take a big leap forward.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Blue Vain wrote:
Jagga, HOF, Cowan, Carroll, Campo's, Harry Dean, Cody Walker, HOK, Ollie, Moir, Wilson, Lord, Charleson, Walsh etc plus a probable big trade this year.
It will be their club in 2 years time.
Get rid of any underachievers or dissenters now who don't want to be a part of it. 4 years at 600k is more than Jack is worth to us. If that's not good enough, on your bike. When SOS got the arse, Jack openly showed his disdain to the club. If he hasn't got over it, get him out of the joint before it infects others.
He can go join his mate Houston (and trust me, we dodged a bullet there)

Personally, I hope the club is ruthless. Any dissenters, sooks or those who are looking for problems instead of solutions, get them out as well. It's a small step backwards to take a big leap forward.


Spot on BV . The Club is bigger than the individual . Any individual including a Silvagni as hallowed a name as that it is .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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Blue Vain wrote:
Jagga, HOF, Cowan, Carroll, Campo's, Harry Dean, Cody Walker, HOK, Ollie, Moir, Wilson, Lord, Charleson, Walsh etc plus a probable big trade this year.
It will be their club in 2 years time.
Get rid of any underachievers or dissenters now who don't want to be a part of it. 4 years at 600k is more than Jack is worth to us. If that's not good enough, on your bike. When SOS got the arse, Jack openly showed his disdain to the club. If he hasn't got over it, get him out of the joint before it infects others.
He can go join his mate Houston (and trust me, we dodged a bullet there)

Personally, I hope the club is ruthless. Any dissenters, sooks or those who are looking for problems instead of solutions, get them out as well. It's a small step backwards to take a big leap forward.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2025
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GWS wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


He’s had an offer in front of him for ages and it’s an offer that’s clearly market rate if the Pies offer is similar.

How is that the club’s fault? They can’t force him to sign.

Are you saying we should have overpaid him?

This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.
What are we doing to seal the deal? It's like asking a girl for a date and hanging up before she gives an answer.

Jack has been one of our better players this year. You don't get rid of your good players unless something is dramatically wrong. Our senior players have poor attitudes. Why?

Don't rely on the kids to save us.

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malbi wrote:
GWS wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


He’s had an offer in front of him for ages and it’s an offer that’s clearly market rate if the Pies offer is similar.

How is that the club’s fault? They can’t force him to sign.

Are you saying we should have overpaid him?

This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.
What are we doing to seal the deal? It's like asking a girl for a date and hanging up before she gives an answer.

Jack has been one of our better players this year. You don't get rid of your good players unless something is dramatically wrong. Our senior players have poor attitudes. Why?

Don't rely on the kids to save us.

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Jack has played what 7 or 8 games this year? That hardly qualifies him to be "one of our better players". the saying also applies to McGovern and others who can't get on the park - the best ability is availability.

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bluebo baggers wrote:
malbi wrote:
GWS wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


He’s had an offer in front of him for ages and it’s an offer that’s clearly market rate if the Pies offer is similar.

How is that the club’s fault? They can’t force him to sign.

Are you saying we should have overpaid him?

This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.
What are we doing to seal the deal? It's like asking a girl for a date and hanging up before she gives an answer.

Jack has been one of our better players this year. You don't get rid of your good players unless something is dramatically wrong. Our senior players have poor attitudes. Why?

Don't rely on the kids to save us.

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Jack has played what 7 or 8 games this year? That hardly qualifies him to be "one of our better players". the saying also applies to McGovern and others who can't get on the park - the best ability is availability.


He’s played 13 this year.

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GWS wrote:
bluebo baggers wrote:
malbi wrote:
GWS wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
how JSoS wasn't signed earlier, is the question we should be asking.

IMO, we once again took things for granted and fell asleep at the wheel. and once again allowed others to dine our carcass.
If SoS leaves - it will be just another embarrassing history moment from the past 30 years and there have been a few.


He’s had an offer in front of him for ages and it’s an offer that’s clearly market rate if the Pies offer is similar.

How is that the club’s fault? They can’t force him to sign.

Are you saying we should have overpaid him?

This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.
What are we doing to seal the deal? It's like asking a girl for a date and hanging up before she gives an answer.

Jack has been one of our better players this year. You don't get rid of your good players unless something is dramatically wrong. Our senior players have poor attitudes. Why?

Don't rely on the kids to save us.

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Jack has played what 7 or 8 games this year? That hardly qualifies him to be "one of our better players". the saying also applies to McGovern and others who can't get on the park - the best ability is availability.


He’s played 13 this year.


Ok my bad - given he wont play again this year that's 57% of games. My point still stands.

I'm glad we're not overpaying for him but I still don't want him to leave.

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GWS wrote:
This has got his father’s fingerprints all over it.

The romance of the father-son connection dies when everyone hates the father.

I’m not saying he’s blameless, but if it were me, there’s only so much that I’d be able to take before pulling the pin.

In a joint like ours, where the finger pointing gets out of hand… seems inevitable, really.

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