bluehammer wrote:
This was the ultimate game of Carlton Bingo.
- dominant first quarter
- can't kick straight
- horrendous field kicking
- First quarter injury
- players standing back waiting for others to do it
- post quarter time 'it'll just happen'
- obligatory 5 goals+ unanswered
- blowouts
- piss poor efforts from Curnow
- late face saving flurry that absolutely flatters us
- lose by under 3 goals
Unsure what I've missed, but if I did I guarantee our team didn't.
That was ridiculously shithouse.
I had to get hammered after that shitshow.
I haven't said that with such venom since NM v Carlton 2003 we lost to them by 123 or more.
This post makes my life easy. Agree.
I posted on Game thread as a reference point or a white board, so sorry I didn't respond to posts.
I made the point of calling a costly skill error from a position in control, either a set shot or a straight forward pass, forward of centre. Sacrcastically I blamed Vossy for every poignant miss. The conclusion I came to was that the players basic skill level let us down more than the coach, enough to turn the result. You couldn't blame the coach for those basic errors by the players, let alone missed tackles. I mean basic. Fatigue wasn't a factor. Coaches were not a factor. S & C weren't a factor for that.
Recruitment is responsible for the players, and we have to stop kidding ourselves our list is Top 8 after a 10 year rebuild, 18 first round picks to add to Doc and Cripps. We didnt invest in skills, or gifted games before players were ready for AFL level. This has led us to a false sense of reality. I believed we had the players.
So regardless of the coach, their will be no Messiah, the list has to improve. Pick your spine. Fill a gap if one is moved on. FFS make sure we have a few players with the heart and strength of George Hewett.
Next, if the coach has lost the soft minded pretty boys on the take, (and they aren't pretty, otherwise they'd be on Cotton On posters), then change the coach.I don't care, but the players have to be dealt with. Come on down Mr Graham Wright.
But this changing of coach is a fallacy for a solution. The tail has wagged the dog since 1999 GF and the Britain handover. Never will blame Brittain. But camporeale and co blamed the coach. Then we got ambushed by Evans and Demetriou. Sacked Elliot, and the tail wagged Ratten and Malthouse. We lost core players but even after the clean out with SOS at the helm, we started afresh and ended up with these privileged premadonas, and still wagging the dog. We've backed the wrong players.
Glad to hear Gerard Healey and co talk up the 2 rucks, but what the game proved is it is horses for courses possibility, and when 2 rucks are a possibility, and you have a Jackson Darcy combo, you can set yourself up really well. Plenty of flexibility. Pitto isn't Darcy, but we needed Pitto today, because TDK isnt Darcy either when facing Xerri Nankervis OBrien....heavy bodies. There's plenty of industry people who believe in the 2 rucks strategy, and its not a furphy.
The show goes on.
Vossys papers will be looked at very closely no doubt. TDK is a Fwd Ruck, like Gerard Healy says, and he's gonski because SOS and Lyon know that. He's much more dangerous forward than Charlie and Harry. He gets to the contest in the forwardline, and provides for the smalls. Bad luck Carlton. You should have stuck with the 2 ruck system by upgrading Pitto, but failed to see the need. List management again.
The list needs a huge shift. Start searching for the new coach now. A few years ago there were McCrae and Kingsley types, McQalter seems to have the players playing for him.
I'll just listen to braithy and keogh a bit more, give them a bit more credence, rather than just a pat on the back for trying. As long as they present facts not made up numbers.
There's tomorrow's game to look for future stars, otherwise the cupboard is bare.
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