100%. Nothing wrong getting games into kids with talent. Why risk elite midfielders not even in good form when the game is generally won and lost in the midfield?

If they move on (Dow, Setters, both playing in seniors when elected to trade away), they move on. We wont let the best kids walk away as easy as Dow and Setters.


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Interesting subplot.

My lesson is stay aware of the game. I did went somewhere dumb at end of 1st quater to 10 min into the Third. I was watching the score but a bit anxious and panicked and didn’t realise I was jinxing the team until too late!

Did the same thing during the GWS game this year. When will I learn?!?! #subplot #fictionisingReality


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We should differentiate between our injured players who could return but might be at 80-90% (short of a gallop, not match-hardened), those who are at risk of reinjuring themselves esp soft tissue, and those who risk longer term damage.

I’d be concerned that TDK with his foot, and Doc could be in the latter category. Foot injuries are difficult to overcome and if they recur, can be permanently debilitating. Esp when there is a 200+cm, 100+kg body on top of the foot! And I know the doctors are saying that Doc’s knee is in no more danger of reinjury than anyone else but a) I’m not buying that, and b) if he does sustain another ACL, that would stuff us up again for next year, and would surely be the end of his career.

Groins tend to take a long time to fix and players often come back cos they feel ok and are ticking off on their progress but lack power and flexibility in their movement and penetration in their kicking. So I’d be very cautious about bringing Boyd back. His role relies almost entirely on quick turns to cover a speedy forward and penetrating kicks.

On the other hand, I would risk Martin b/c if he’s deemed fit, he can have a huge impact to our forward line and frankly, his chances of blowing another knee/calf etc is almost random - another week or two won’t diminish the risk IMO.

I’d put Cerra in the high risk of reinjuring his hammy again so depends on risk/reward and who else we might have. If he plays, I would play him mid-forward; definitely not off half back.

Harry, Charlie, McGovern risk coming back underdone or not quite 100%. But they are so important structurally, so I’d bring them in. I’d even consider using Charlie as a bit of a decoy.

As for Cripps and Acres, any injuries they may have just seem to make them even better. Tough bastards!

PS. Pittonet might not be a bad match up for Big-O in any event.


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yeah, Motlop doesn’t do enough flashy stuff yet to warrant his auto-selection. Gimme another gut runner like Ollie or Walshy over motlop any day of the week. I know what he can bring, that final he was subbed into and kicked, what four?! but he’s more likely to do SFA for three quarters and snag one good goal over the shoulder


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that he did. probably a 1% likelihood of that happening again this year and if it does we probably lose anyhow.


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hard to argue with that. unless we lack height in selected team and lose a KP tall.


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⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️


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just Like JSOS, Kemps not too bad at sticking tackles in the F50. but i know what you mean, 3 tall forwards sometimes makes our transition Game overly predictable, even with 3 targets to choose from, we often have one upfield and one way back in the goal square which makes the leading forward to easy to double team. or our talls both go up, but that didn’t happen as much in 2024 as 2023.


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I got to lift the Collingwood cup this year and it’s surprisingly light weight and feels flimsy AF. plate silver can be very deceiving on camera (which i should know as a former production designer for film!).


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billings threw 2litres of mayo on it throwing his head to the ground — I’m not expert but the Liam Jones one looked worse to me as it was more like two actions and he got off!

Owies charge upheld I see. what BS


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I was spewing when Owies was dropped for the PF last year. Tribunal sealed his fate this year, he’s so critical in our forward mix I think. Oh well, team mentality, one taken down by the footy Gods another bagger rises to the occasion.

Motlop was played and took 2 Marks, 4 kicks 2 HB and zero tackles and zero goals/behinds.

Had played Owies — we won the PF and staggered into a GF against the filth, something their supporters were terrified off i can tell you having a partner and her kids as filth supporters, one even works at the club ::i’m not crying, honestly::


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I’d argue Martin is a better small forward than Williams when he can get a full game in. Williams had some luck but has come back to earth after First few games Up forward.


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Motlop in ‘23 prelim:
D: 6,
G.B: 0.0
K: 4
HB: 2
M: 2
SI: 0
ToG: 70%
MG: 115 m

And lest that seem like an aberration, other than his G.B that’s pretty much his season average this year and last. He averaged 1.0 G a game this year and 1.1 last year, so for a small forward going backwards on a small sample of games. Love his enthusiasm for the moments, loath his lack of enthusiasm for the hard stuff.


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Cerra?! You gotta be kidding me. Unless he’s burning the training track alight then just no. His form all year was terrible> Carol plays in front of cerra no matter what the coin difference cerra takes Into the comparison. I rate him but his injury and lack of form have shot this year for him I think.


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If you think Lord is a “light body” and Cerra isn’t, well ok\?!?>!


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durds was brilliant against WC, even Voss said gosh we’ve missed him. played injured last weekend, why do we keep thinking we can get away playing so many genuinely injured players (i’m not talking niggles, talking impaired players risking serious reinjury) . (As someone said, Cripps gets a pass, nobody else does)


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I didn’t miss his thug acts against his teammates. He ironed out Fog two weeks in a row, the second time injuring him so badly he put him out for the season.

Including him is gambling in multiple ways
- hoping he doesn’t maim a teammate
- hoping he can play out the game
- hoping he has a positive impact
- hoping he doesn’t give away a stupid free

Sooooo... Not a fan, then??

Sooooo... Not a fan, then?? [/quote]

I used to be, now I am over him, too much promise and too little delivered. Time to let him go and torment some other clubs supporters.

If we don't win our Owies appeal/court case...

So In: Charlie, Harry, Martin, Williams, Gov
Out: Motlop, Binns, Durdin, Carroll, Owies (susp)

Motlop has lacked any real impact for the last month.
Binns is unlucky but a bit light for AFL level right now, especially finals, needs a solid preseason or two.
Durdin and Carroll seem to be carrying significant injury niggles and/or fitness issues that are restricting them.
Kennedy makes us too slow with all the talls coming in, but he can play anywhere so make him sub and see what Moir can surprise us with.

B: Saad, Weitering, Cowan
HB: Newman, Young, McGovern
C: Acres, Cripps, O Hollands
HF: E Hollands, Harry, Kemp
F: Martin, Curnow, Williams
R: Pittonet, Hewett, Walsh
Int: Moir, Cincotta, Fantasia, Lord
Sub: Kennedy

Emergency: Carroll, Binns, Lemmey