So you’re suggesting we should have had a backup ruck in the side?

Why haven’t you mentioned this before…?

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I did read the responses last night's post match TC thread, and BF's and BA reviews today, and the 2 rucks certainly gained a lot of momentum, including previous naysayers, which we also saw when there was this newfound favouritism for the "horses for courses" approach towards Pitto, straight after the earlier GWS game when Pitto dominated, and TDK kicked 3 goals, opposed to writing off Pitto as a "break glass depth ruck".

I recall a few...missnaut, GE....I wish we could see those posts from last night

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Great catching up with CK Sinbagger and Bondi.
Lost it at selection table.
Why do we need 3 players running up and down the wing not having impact.
We had 70 points scored on us from stoppage.
Stoppages are our 1 wood.
This obsession with trying to win off turn over is taking away our Ace up the sleeve.
If Weiters had not got injured he would have stayed on Hogan but was on one leg so undersized Kemp was given the task.
The recent form of TDK has been a bit of a mirage. Briggs took him to the cleaners.
They play him for the work post hit outs but when he rests we use the best contest and clearance player in the ruck. Makes no sense.
TDk purple patch against Witts off injury, Port whose rucks are useless a 30 plus year old in a Zimmer frame and he beat up on his little brother playing his first ever game in the ruck.
Pitto and TDK worked last time it would have worked again.
Hewett must play he is an extractor and defensive mid.
Charlie was putrid constantly trying to wrestle and often 1 out against 2.
After quarter time GWS brought the heat started to run and we were found wanting

2 rucks is a must next week otherwise English and co will give Bont libba and Richards first use of the ball and it will be a repeat of last night.
Take your no impact players running up the ground and stick it where the sun don't shine and go back to winning the contest

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Any photos of you old farts?

My earlier comments in the original post game were basically we had odd selections, I'd have trialled 2 trucks, lack of in-game coaching changes was odd, Charlie's in a mini slump and Toby Greene's a cauliflower.

CK has the most gorgeous kids.

They were approachable, enthusiastic little blue baggers, and didnt freak out when they saw my head.

Pity we didnt get the win for them.

Great effort CK driving from Melbourne and back: 20 hours

Fantastic to see the TCers there.

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The first 3 questions are related to playing 2 rucks and I'm sure Vossy will discuss the learnings from the game.

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It was your thoughts on other stuff you mentioned. No need for olive branch. I thought that part was funny. You can make up your own mind re rucks. You know I'm not prepared to take a risk with one ruck in a do or die game.

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No I was only asking your thoughts after watching TDK go down and stay down holding his ankle then going off. You know, just before Harry had to swing in the CB ruck, which he lost and GWS scored a quick goal from there.

Mate, you know I've got mould growing between the ears. That's why I'm asking the question to my more learned friends here.

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GE wrote in the pre match thread



Spot on.

You knew something

Ouiji Board?

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obsession with turnover?! you mean obsession with winning, yeah? all the empirical data says turnover and pressure is not just finals winning, but the flag winning profile.

... actually scoring from stoppage was our 1-wood before we went one ruck, and chased pressure and turnover. we were the worst team in the entire afl at conceding from stoppage when we were losing with 2 rucks.

i think we lost last night with the players. the effort and hunger just wasn't there. not sure what our pressure rating was, but it couldn't have been high. you can't play high turnover/ pressure games and not bring pressure. we brought the pressure in the last 10 mins and nearly stole the game. if we'd done that from HT onwards, we'd have won by 4-5 goals.


port just smashed dogs into oblivion with one ruck, we will too. if tdk is injured, let pitto ruck solo. give the players and the system a chance to atone. prior to last night we had the best defensive and 2nd best offensive profile in the whole afl for the last 6 weeks.

i think last night was a mulligan, we'll bounce back and show who we are next satdee arvy.

I really hope they learnt big time from that (embarrassing) loss last night ..... both coaching/selection group and players themselves.
I did mention "Horses for Courses" last night re: Pitto and yes he should have played vs Briggs. Hewett is also a must .... not quick but better than (as you say) 3 players running up and down the wing not having impact.
If Martin miraculously makes a return it'll be interesting to see what the team will look like from FB line to FF line. Does Williams take Cowan's spot ?? Motlop hasn't been seen yet. If they decide to play him it's him vs Owies and/or Fogarty for 2 spots .... etc etc.
7 rounds to go and still some sorting out to be done. Barring injury, who are the dispensable ones?

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No photos because I was near Pitto whilst Sydney was looking at the blonde next to him.
I didn't want anyone to think I was a Pitto fan.

I'm 5, 10 and 15 years older than Sydney Blue, sinbagger, and CK.
When we got together, I said i thought I was at an Ashley and Martin convention. I have a head full of hair.

I was proof that the only way to avoid going grey is to not listen to doctors advice, play hard almost every day, don't drink in moderation, have lots of sex, and treat everyday like it will be your last. That should make you very happy too.

sinbagger texted me today and I quote: " I was somehow expecting someone larger and physically imposing, but in retrospect the manic energy you emit fits perfectly with your online persona." I'm shorter than 5'8" these days, have hair, sinbagger and CK where beanies and Sydney Blue would hurt you if he lined you up. All similar height.

That's enough info for you to make up the picture. Just don't think about the sex bit, or Arthur the movie.

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Tell the truth Bondi
We didn't take any photos because you are on the most wanted list in 3 states.

And if that blonde belongs to Pitto I don't think he would care if he was playing ruck or not.


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Is this plowman ball park?

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I'm not against the endurance runners on the wings.

Acres
Cottrell
Hollands
Hollands

I agree we don't want to have them running the length of the ground back and forth and not getting enough touches to help us win.

Acres was fantastic (if you turn a blind eye to some of his disposal, under pressure)
Eliaj and Cottrell didnt have good games.
Ollie had the highest pressure points in the team

You wouldnt have seen this on TV but one effort from Ollie where he sprinted 150 metres to get to our BP, hit Daniels or Bedford, and forced the ball out when we were under siege in the 3rd and GWS had the numbers to score. Ollie wouldnt have got a stat for that, other than pressure acts or pressure points. He works hard. I know he's light, but he brings the heat.

On the otherhand, GWS attacked the contest in 3's and had numbers (usually 3) on the other side for the switch after 1st Qtr. I couldn't understand how, but it happened for 60 minutes straight. We stuck to playing our way and did nothing to snuff that out.

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seeing the games live is different, hey. most that criticise ollie don't get to see all the things which don't get onto the stat column from his 16km he runs each game. fantasia a bit the same, only he's mostly running into decoy space to spread the defense.

They've met dannyboy mate. They can handle anything

Thank you for your kind words squire. BTW one is actually a Saint, but with Carlton her second team. There's a bossy Swans kid at school so she's a happy camper tonight. The three of us have bellies full of pizza in a motel in Albury.

You look way younger than your age Bondi. Maybe you wind back the clock 5 minutes for every line of your posts

BTW the bulldogs are now my most hated NRL team. A group of their fans booed me & the kids on our way out of the Locker Room pre match. Then said "go the Swans". Tits. Then I saw they won, annoyingly

Didn't get a parking ticket even though I parked dodgey, so that was a win

Look forward to catching you guys again.






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GWS beat us at our one wood. They scored 70 points from stoppages. How?

If we are going to look for something empirical, what changed from last week?

The personnel swap was Cottrell and TDK for Hewett/ and Pitto or, if you like, we added more Strength fto Turnover game and gave up Strengths from our stoppage game. I'm sure you can see that.

Cripps is our contested beast at the stoppages who feeds out to Walsh Kennedy Cerra. That's our strength at Stoppages. When Cripps is in the ruck we lose him as our contested beast on the floor.

TDK was on the field 78% but didn't ruck that whole period. At times, TDK was still on the field when Harry or Cripps were rucking, positioned as the next kick from the contest, not much but it did happen. That should be obvious as to why that happened. When TDK was off the ground resting Cripps won 2 HOs and Harry 1. So, we have Cripps in the ruck, who taps to Cripps ... no that didn't happen because we lost our contested beast to the ruck role. Whilst Cripps was up and the ball hit the floor either GWS got first hands and won possession or Carlton did but got tackled by the frenetic GWS mids.

Maybe something in that.

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if that's the case he's genuinely 14 minutes old. he still smells like placenta!