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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:18 am 
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how much of that frenetic fast play and swarming the oppo will we lose with guys like kennedy and harry coming back?

like, cerra for dow - like for like no brainer, cerra is better.
walsh for fish or does he come in for hewitt?

kennedy will be behind hewitt in the depth chart now, yeah?

if harry could ruck it's a no brainer for pitto. but he can't so he'll replace someone who's been responsible for the frenetic foot speed, forward pressure and locking the ball in our front half that both dees, pies and aint's couldn't deal with.


it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.

walsh, cerra and imo sos for pitto are the no-brainer upgrades - everyone else will really, possibly even dramatically change the make up and balance of this current side.


Kennedy would be a great sub to bring on when others tiring. He's done damage from that spot before. Weapon. Hewett is back in top form and not going anywhere.

Harry is around the goals and not part of the swarm further up the ground. He will create even more space between opposition defenders and stuff up their team defence (think Lever and May partnership).

Whilst we have manic players sending manic ball forward we still need hard nuts like Pitto wearing down the opposition with his hits on them, and nullifying the oppositions ruck. Leaves TDK to play his manic self, and have rests when needed.

Bring them all on. We can only get better. It all starts in the midfield: Cripps Hewett Docherty and we add Walsh and Cerra to those blokes. I'm sure no one disagrees they trump Dow, Fisher, Fogarty, Cuningham in the middle.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:40 am 
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I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:47 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)



Other than Cerra, who was never 1-2 weeks, looks to me everyone else (except Williams) looks good to go next week vs GWS. I expect Walsh back, and Kennedy may have to return through the VFL or as a sub. If we win, we are not depserate to play Gov, but a run before finals is favourable.

Give us a hint what you think/ know with regards to the above?

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2023
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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
how much of that frenetic fast play and swarming the oppo will we lose with guys like kennedy and harry coming back?

like, cerra for dow - like for like no brainer, cerra is better.
walsh for fish or does he come in for hewitt?

kennedy will be behind hewitt in the depth chart now, yeah?

if harry could ruck it's a no brainer for pitto. but he can't so he'll replace someone who's been responsible for the frenetic foot speed, forward pressure and locking the ball in our front half that both dees, pies and aint's couldn't deal with.


it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.

walsh, cerra and imo sos for pitto are the no-brainer upgrades - everyone else will really, possibly even dramatically change the make up and balance of this current side.


Kennedy would be a great sub to bring on when others tiring. He's done damage from that spot before. Weapon. Hewett is back in top form and not going anywhere.

Harry is around the goals and not part of the swarm further up the ground. He will create even more space between opposition defenders and stuff up their team defence (think Lever and May partnership).

Whilst we have manic players sending manic ball forward we still need hard nuts like Pitto wearing down the opposition with his hits on them, and nullifying the oppositions ruck. Leaves TDK to play his manic self, and have rests when needed.

Bring them all on. We can only get better. It all starts in the midfield: Cripps Hewett Docherty and we add Walsh and Cerra to those blokes. I'm sure no one disagrees they trump Dow, Fisher, Fogarty, Cuningham in the middle.


This is why Harry needs to replace Pitto, so we don’t end up to big and cumbersome. If we have Charlie and Harry up forward and we add a resting ruckman we will become way too too heavy and lose the swarm and manic forward pressure that has been the catalyst of our success


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:25 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)



Other than Cerra, who was never 1-2 weeks, looks to me everyone else (except Williams) looks good to go next week vs GWS. I expect Walsh back, and Kennedy may have to return through the VFL or as a sub. If we win, we are not depserate to play Gov, but a run before finals is favourable.

Give us a hint what you think/ know with regards to the above?


Sorry I'm not saying most aren't close to ready

It's more that some of what is in the club's injury report is , how shall I put it, they've been very selective in their wording lol

But really we should expect this. They are never going to provide all the info. That is Intel they don't want the opposition to know. I don't know if they care about freaking the fans out. Maybe that is a consideration. Who knows.

For example, let's say there is a player who has recently had some injury concerns and now is getting scans and the club have chosen to leave that bit out of the injury report.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:34 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
how much of that frenetic fast play and swarming the oppo will we lose with guys like kennedy and harry coming back?

like, cerra for dow - like for like no brainer, cerra is better.
walsh for fish or does he come in for hewitt?

kennedy will be behind hewitt in the depth chart now, yeah?

if harry could ruck it's a no brainer for pitto. but he can't so he'll replace someone who's been responsible for the frenetic foot speed, forward pressure and locking the ball in our front half that both dees, pies and aint's couldn't deal with.


it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out.

walsh, cerra and imo sos for pitto are the no-brainer upgrades - everyone else will really, possibly even dramatically change the make up and balance of this current side.


Kennedy would be a great sub to bring on when others tiring. He's done damage from that spot before. Weapon. Hewett is back in top form and not going anywhere.

Harry is around the goals and not part of the swarm further up the ground. He will create even more space between opposition defenders and stuff up their team defence (think Lever and May partnership).

Whilst we have manic players sending manic ball forward we still need hard nuts like Pitto wearing down the opposition with his hits on them, and nullifying the oppositions ruck. Leaves TDK to play his manic self, and have rests when needed.

Bring them all on. We can only get better. It all starts in the midfield: Cripps Hewett Docherty and we add Walsh and Cerra to those blokes. I'm sure no one disagrees they trump Dow, Fisher, Fogarty, Cuningham in the middle.


This is why Harry needs to replace Pitto, so we don’t end up to big and cumbersome. If we have Charlie and Harry up forward and we add a resting ruckman we will become way too too heavy and lose the swarm and manic forward pressure that has been the catalyst of our success


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yeah poor old bondi seems to be lost in the wilderness with his latest hot-take.

kennedy would not be a great sub as his one paced and won't break a game open. at least ed, while one-paced can run a whole qtr without a break bcos he has a better tank and can even go to and nullify one of theirs who's getting the ball.

the swarm happens all over the ground, but one place where it's concentrated is the F50, exactly where bondi wants to park harry, tdk and charles.

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that's the exact point imo of what not to do. i am sure with all the ins, we don't actually get better, rather unbalanced - we become to tall and too slow right across the park. see the losing streak for limited ball movement and looking too slow out of stoppages while other teams run clear of us, and meanwhile with the ball we can surge and spread, we're reduced to kicking to contests and praying there's no rebound (which we couldn't stop).


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:36 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)



Other than Cerra, who was never 1-2 weeks, looks to me everyone else (except Williams) looks good to go next week vs GWS. I expect Walsh back, and Kennedy may have to return through the VFL or as a sub. If we win, we are not depserate to play Gov, but a run before finals is favourable.

Give us a hint what you think/ know with regards to the above?


Sorry I'm not saying most aren't close to ready

It's more that some of what is in the club's injury report is , how shall I put it, they've been very selective in their wording lol

But really we should expect this. They are never going to provide all the info. That is Intel they don't want the opposition to know. I don't know if they care about freaking the fans out. Maybe that is a consideration. Who knows.

For example, let's say there is a player who has recently had some injury concerns and now is getting scans and the club have chosen to leave that bit out of the injury report.



whats the info?

cerra misses the season? doc maybe too?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:37 am 
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On Harry….

we DID win a few games with him early
in the unbeaten run…it’s not as if he wasn’t
part if it…!

he’s fast…he tackles…and marks down the line…
he makes us stronger…lets not lose our
minds here…!


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sure i wish Walsh and Cerra were ready first…
but he’s ready to go…two games before the
finals…he’ll be better for the run…!

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 Post subject: Injury thread 2023
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As much as I want Kennedy back in the 22, starting him as sub makes sense given the form Hewett is in.

As others have already said, he's shown he can come on and have a big impact in the last quarter. Not to mention, we don't want to risk him getting injured again.

Harry for Pitto is a no-brainer.

Ditto Cerra for Dow and The artist formerly known as Brackets for Marchbank.

Walsh for Ollie/Cotters? Can't see Fog or Cunners being dropped.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:48 am 
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Braithy wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)



Other than Cerra, who was never 1-2 weeks, looks to me everyone else (except Williams) looks good to go next week vs GWS. I expect Walsh back, and Kennedy may have to return through the VFL or as a sub. If we win, we are not depserate to play Gov, but a run before finals is favourable.

Give us a hint what you think/ know with regards to the above?


Sorry I'm not saying most aren't close to ready

It's more that some of what is in the club's injury report is , how shall I put it, they've been very selective in their wording lol

But really we should expect this. They are never going to provide all the info. That is Intel they don't want the opposition to know. I don't know if they care about freaking the fans out. Maybe that is a consideration. Who knows.

For example, let's say there is a player who has recently had some injury concerns and now is getting scans and the club have chosen to leave that bit out of the injury report.



whats the info?

cerra misses the season? doc maybe too?


That Cerra rumour has been knocked on the head.
Hopeful Cerra plays against G-Dub, but he eill definitely be back for finals.
Also I think Paddy is saying that he thinks Walsh WILL play this week.
Is that right Paddy?

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:50 am 
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Cerra is fine. Those rumours are total bs. Will be available for selection for giants game.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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Yup….

he’s Cerra ripe to go…!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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rhino27 wrote:
Cerra is fine. Those rumours are total bs. Will be available for selection for giants game.

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tommi wrote:
Yup….

he’s Cerra ripe to go…!


kindest regards tommi


CERRA BOMB!


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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HA….

nice…I’d forgotten about that one…
70’s girl rock and Joan Jet…!

we all know who the firecracker was there…!


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Braithy wrote:
kennedy would not be a great sub as his one paced and won't break a game open. at least ed, while one-paced can run a whole qtr without a break bcos he has a better tank and can even go to and nullify one of theirs who's getting the ball.



I'm sure there was a game or 2 earlier this year where he was sub & did extremely well

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tommi wrote:
On Harry….

we DID win a few games with him early
in the unbeaten run…it’s not as if he wasn’t
part if it…!


Exactly Tommi. And not just win either. They couldnt get anywhere near us and we were posting very high scores.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:12 am 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
I have rock solid info on the injuries
While I don't know for sure who will and won't play - club probably don't know for sure either as it's early in the week - I can tell you the info they post on the website is far from the truth
They're not lying necessarily but it's more what they don't day (context)



Other than Cerra, who was never 1-2 weeks, looks to me everyone else (except Williams) looks good to go next week vs GWS. I expect Walsh back, and Kennedy may have to return through the VFL or as a sub. If we win, we are not depserate to play Gov, but a run before finals is favourable.

Give us a hint what you think/ know with regards to the above?


Sorry I'm not saying most aren't close to ready

It's more that some of what is in the club's injury report is , how shall I put it, they've been very selective in their wording lol

But really we should expect this. They are never going to provide all the info. That is Intel they don't want the opposition to know. I don't know if they care about freaking the fans out. Maybe that is a consideration. Who knows.

For example, let's say there is a player who has recently had some injury concerns and now is getting scans and the club have chosen to leave that bit out of the injury report.



whats the info?

cerra misses the season? doc maybe too?


That Cerra rumour has been knocked on the head.
Hopeful Cerra plays against G-Dub, but he eill definitely be back for finals.
Also I think Paddy is saying that he thinks Walsh WILL play this week.
Is that right Paddy?


That's what I was told

But my source is not Russell or Voss !

My whole point is that there are always going to be some bad news that isn't revealed too early

Which we all know from common sense

So not sure I'm giving the TC community much interesting info

But yeah there's an important player who is getting scans


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