Maybe they're backing Voss because it'll give us the high picks we need lol

How's this from Voss. Total BS...

“We’ll continue to do those things that we need to be able to reinforce within our program, within the system we want to be able to play and the things that are really important to us"

Blah blah blah Vossy. The system is [REDACTED]. Time to go back to being an assistant.

i disagree. i think. i understand where you're coming from - there's no point swapping voss out now, we still miss finals, and if we keep him, we will get the #3 draft pick.

but ... if we do cut him loose, we can begin our search for the next coach right now. surely there's a handful of Mcraes in the coaching pipeline waiting for their go.

once we identify that coach, we start prepping for the draft and trade period. Go big. anyone with value not named cerra, charlie or weiters can go.


Voss has to go. now or at season end. but we do it now, we start preparing for the offseason

other departments need sorting too:

fitness and conditioning - russell. does he go too?

list management. sakc the lot (lol)

Basically - we're not fit as other teams and get overun when the pressure is on. we don't have a gameplan, our list is rubbish (bringing in 1-speed acres, to an already top heavy, slow midfield that already had cripps, kennedy, Ed - how did people within the club sign off on this?) Speed has always killed in afl, no matter which era you're from.

we don't tackle, not bcos we don't want to, we cannot catch up to the other teams to lay a hand on them.

we need speed.

if we're not re-signing TDK, Gov, etc we have cap room

trade out cripps while he still has some value. Harry might get some interest. walsh maybe too.


sorry ... i went on a tangent then. this team makes me hyperventilate.

https://twitter.com/ThePrenderCast/stat ... 0677261312

If true, time to WD40 the guillotine

Bolton had no players
Teague had no balls
Voss has no game plan

...but we're close

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Parko was asked during the presidents dinner what he thought the problem was. He said a strong list needs about
30 bona fide AFL players. He thought ours only had x 20.
I tend to agree with him but I was surprised by his honesty.

There is so much that looks broken it’s v hard to know where to start or how to narrow the fix down to one thing.
I can’t believe that all our players are as bad as they are playing. Just not possible. I picture this same list with Ross Lyon as coach or Brad Scott and can’t see us looking so lost and indecisive around the ground.
But then I look at how bad our kicking has been - for goal and around the ground and wonder if we had hit our targets a bit more, built some momentum, just maybe with a bit of the pressure off our players are able to stick to the game plan better which then might look good?
I wonder how much a top strategy assistant or two could help? Perhaps a Mark Williams type special coach? A Neil Balme type footy person?
But then, my overriding concern is: I have no faith in the decision makers to make the right call whether that be who to replace; or who to replace them with?
I have no confidence that we would be able to identify the next Craig McRae vs the next Teague or Bolton or Rhys Shaw… I have no confidence that if we went for an experienced coach, that we’d be able to nail a Ross Lyon or Brad Scott Vs a Mick Malthouse or Denis Pagan (although Pagan had a fair few asterisks to contend with during his time).

Serious question: did we make all the recommendations from the review from a couple of years ago? If so, it means either the report was not accurate or thorough enough, or our implementation was flawed. If we didn’t make all the changes recommended, might that still be doable?


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Good post. I always got the feeling that review was done to remove Teague

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That's been my point all along.

The board and football dept need replacing. They're the true idiots. Appointing more idiots.

This is the worst club in the AFL.

They appointed a coach who apparently isn't tactically strong. WTF?! Who does that? That's like appointing a head chef who isn't great at cooking.

The monkeys running the club will just appoint another below par coach.

A fair question. A pity the press don't have the nous to ask it rather than just the shallow questioning occurring.
Maybe the review was purely coach focused which would be an issue to me because surely any review has to encompass the whole footy department. Didn't Liddle leave post or during the revew which must indicate it was wider than just the coach.
Great question though.

I am a big believer that a big issue for this club over the last 22 years has been the continual overrating of our position and list. As we have been so desperate for success, we have been unwilling to make the tough calls when required. Always thinking we were a step away from ultimate success.

What tends to happen is you then waste years keeping players on the list who play too many games with little to show for it. Essentially due to miscalculating the quality of the list and losing the ability for the team to peak at the right time. Now we have a situation where players like Cripps and Doherty seem past their best with little to show in terms of success. You then have to go back to the drawing board.

It's a constant cycle of rebuilding without any sustained success.

Good examples include players like Plowman and Ed Curnow who should have been phased out years ago.

We must have a robust , credible , independent external review on all operations and football department at our club.
The ineptitude , generally poor performance of our team is totally unacceptable.
One debacle after another, after 2 decades of dismal performances, supporters have reached the end.

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Parkin was one of the best coaches this club has ever had

First thing Voss needs to do is drop Young. Simply isn't physically strong enough..complete liability.

Look at the impact McRae made to the Pies.
And Scott to Essendope.
Good coach has a profound impact on a teams performances.

This about sums it up for me. Issues across every part of the club. A true basket case.

Players who are not tough enough, cannot handle pressure or expectation, cannot execute basic fundamental skills (ie goal kicking or hitting simple kicks). A graders performing like C graders. A clear lack of B graders. Too many passengers in the bottom 6.

Coaches who are not tactically astute, cannot implement selection integrity, talk in stupid platitudes rather than giving honest appraisals. Our overly defensive game plan has sucked the enjoyment from players and supporters. Two assistants (Hamill and Clarke) who wouldn’t get a gig at any other club.

List management team which has maxed out the salary cap on a team that will come bottom 4. Too scared to lose players so hand out massive deals that cripple the club into the future. SOS was woeful after the 2015 draft. We pay big money for the wrong players from other clubs.

A head of football who oversees all the above, has done so for 5 years and has absolutely no idea how to identify and fix issues. How he’s still employed by the club is completely beyond me.

Then we get to our incompetent board who are largely responsible for key appointments and have failed time and time again.

We’re the worst club of the 21st century and it doesn’t look like that’ll change soon.

Yup some coaches have an innate , amazing ability to get the best performances from players just as MaRae has done brilliantly .
Vossy has our boys playing in career worst performance. Current Brownlow medalist two former Colman medalists , a few 1st round picks .
Voss was a poor choice as Head Coach , the review committee and whomever gave final sanction has the burden & responsibility for an atrocious appointment.
Unfortunately our misery will continue , action must be taken, there’s much to do.

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Club is so stupid they'll resist making the right decision (sacking him) because its not a good look

Look no further than the fact that Voss' game plan for kicking goals appears to be taking shots from 60m out.

NO wonder we kicked 3 times as many behinds as goals.

There is no semblance of system and game plan under Voss.