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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:29 pm 
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Important to remember it isn't just about injuries to your top 22.
Injuries to up and coming young players is bad also. Can impact their development personally and long term this has a flow on effect on the broader list development and management. Club would have been really excited to get another year into Boyd. Now, to some extent that has been derailed.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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Important to remember it isn't just about injuries to your top 22.
Injuries to up and coming young players is bad also. Can impact their development personally and long term this has a flow on effect on the broader list development and management. Club would have been really excited to get another year into Boyd. Now, to some extent that has been derailed.


100%

The careers of Carroll Kemp Dow Cuningham Philp Honey have all been interrupted early by injury and not to mention COVID where there were no reserves.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:58 am 
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.


One of them is clearly full of shit


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:45 am 
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I didn't see Mcgovern at training today


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:51 am 
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

Cottrell has a fractured navicular.

They’d still be waiting for it to knit, never mind making plans for a return to action.

They opened him up to ensure a good knit, but that then comes with its own set of issues.

Don’t be surprised if the best outcome means he’s placed on the LTI list before the MSD.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:56 am 
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Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

Cottrell has a fractured navicular.

They’d still be waiting for it to knit, never mind making plans for a return to action.

They opened him up to ensure a good knit, but that then comes with its own set of issues.

Don’t be surprised if the best outcome means he’s placed on the LTI list before the MSD.


So Nick Negropontis is full of shit.
Who the hell is he anyway?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:04 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

Cottrell has a fractured navicular.

They’d still be waiting for it to knit, never mind making plans for a return to action.

They opened him up to ensure a good knit, but that then comes with its own set of issues.

Don’t be surprised if the best outcome means he’s placed on the LTI list before the MSD.


So Nick Negropontis is full of shit.
Who the hell is he anyway?

No idea, but the name always makes me giggle & think of the BBC.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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Paddycripps wrote:
Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

Cottrell has a fractured navicular.

They’d still be waiting for it to knit, never mind making plans for a return to action.

They opened him up to ensure a good knit, but that then comes with its own set of issues.

Don’t be surprised if the best outcome means he’s placed on the LTI list before the MSD.


So Nick Negropontis is full of shit.
Who the hell is he anyway?


He's a journo. Carlton supporter.
Provides reports for SEN for about 5 years now???.
Has his own footy website, or use to.
Was the only journo not laying boots in during the Bolton & Teague years.
Knows our team well .. better than most other journos.
I have enjoyed his reports on Carlton.

He selected Cottrell in his best 23. Had heard Cottrell will be available round 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:36 pm 
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If there’s a likelihood that Boyd & Cottrell won’t play at all in the first half of the season, you’d expect they would go straight to the inactive list now? I’m assuming that the medium term prognosis for them is somewhat better than it is for Philp (who I suspect we won’t see again).

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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If there’s a likelihood that Boyd & Cottrell won’t play at all in the first half of the season, you’d expect they would go straight to the inactive list now? I’m assuming that the medium term prognosis for them is somewhat better than it is for Philp (who I suspect we won’t see again).

That would rule them both out for the season.

Also, the injury allowance is capped at $250k. So, if you want to add extras to the list you’ll need to have space in your TPP to cover anything above that figure.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:03 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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But in the second pre-season under Voss, Cook sees improvement within the squad.

“We’ve taken the next step, unfortunately we have a few injuries as you know and that always is the case when you increase the intensity and the volume which we have done compared to last year,” he told media on Thursday morning.

“Vossy and the team have not been reluctant about that, they’ve set some pretty high standards for the players and they’re loving it: that’s the feedback I’m getting.”

The injuries Cook referenced are those belonging to Sam Walsh and Zac Williams in particular. Walsh will miss at least the first month of the season after back surgery, while Williams will need a knee reconstruction after tearing his ACL last week. Jordan Boyd and Matt Cottrell are also dealing with long-term injuries.

But as it stands, it’s little compared to the injury carnage Carlton went through last year.


https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/02/09/weve-taken-the-next-step-blues-boss-makes-flag-declaration-in-five-year-plan/

Last week Nick Negropontis wrote that Cottrell would be available in round 1, and today Seb Mottram writes Cottrell is a long term injury.

Who really knows? I reckon Farmer Blue may have spoken with someone who is in the know: I hope so.

Cottrell has a fractured navicular.

They’d still be waiting for it to knit, never mind making plans for a return to action.

They opened him up to ensure a good knit, but that then comes with its own set of issues.

Don’t be surprised if the best outcome means he’s placed on the LTI list before the MSD.


So Nick Negropontis is full of shit.
Who the hell is he anyway?


He's a journo. Carlton supporter.
Provides reports for SEN for about 5 years now???.
Has his own footy website, or use to.
Was the only journo not laying boots in during the Bolton & Teague years.
Knows our team well .. better than most other journos.
I have enjoyed his reports on Carlton.

He selected Cottrell in his best 23. Had heard Cottrell will be available round 1.


Fair enough but seriously that type of injury, if it isn't healed now, I would find it hard to see him playing in the seniors in R1.
Surely he would be on incremental minutes his first few games back.
He'd want to be playin the the last practice match minimum to make R1 I'd have thought.
The only thing I will say outside of that is the club would want his run given the absence of Walsh, Boyd and Williams.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:14 pm 
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To be fair there is a difference between 'will play in Round 1' Vs 'available for selection in round 1".
Having said that, I feel like either the club or him is misleading...


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:21 pm 
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'Available for selection' means little if he is unlikely to play.

LOB and Akers for the wings then.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2023 3:25 pm 
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Corey Durdin calf now apparently.

These individual programs are great.


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Paddycripps wrote:
Corey Durdin calf now apparently.

These individual programs are great.


From memory he had one in his first game. Somewhat unusual for a young player

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 Post subject: Re: Injury thread 2023
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Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Corey Durdin calf now apparently.

These individual programs are great.


From memory he had one in his first game. Somewhat unusual for a young player


Yes , was thinking the same thing " Vain ". I thought it was the old man's injury .

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