Atkins played several years at VFL level before getting drafted & Close played SANFL. Guthrie played at the Calder Cannons, so I’m not sure Geelong could’ve hidden him either. They’ve just done a lot right, to be fair to them.

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They'll need it to get the Dunkley trade over the line. Can't see their future first being enough to get that deal done.

GWS is probably more likely to have less use for their later picks should the Hopper deal go through smoothly. Pick 19 and their future 3rd round pick for Pick 29 and our future 2nd round, even throw in the Jones pick if need be.

Those 4 picks require 4 list spots. They’re better off using it for points

Carlton's draft picks are “on the table” says list manager
By Nic Negrepontis an hour ago

Carlton is open to trading out their draft picks to improve their hand ahead of this year’s National Draft.

The Blues acquired Blake Acres in a trade with Fremantle, but have now turned their attention to the draft, given they have only had three live selections in the last two years.

Club list manager Nick Austin confirmed they are open to pick swap trades.

“From a picks point of view it could be three or four or five, we’ve still got a bit to work through with our list and who comes in and who goes out and what we’re going to do with our picks,” Austin told AFL Trade Radio.

“We feel like we’re in a good position with our draft hand to be able to move around a bit and I think there’s going to be some opportunities to do that as some deals get done and more particularly on (draft night) itself.

“We’d like to improve our (draft) hand as much as we can. Obviously with the future (picks) market as well.

“The option is there to strengthen our hand if we feel there is an opportunity. We’re pretty open. We’ve been open with all the clubs that our picks are on the table and we’re happy to improve our hand as much as we feel necessary and if the right player is there.

“We’ll work through that. Whether stuff happens this week or not, I feel like on the night there will be some opportunities to do that.”

The Blues enter the draft with picks 10, 29, 49, 66 and 68 at the present time.

With Ed Curnow set to be retained, Will Setterfield is the only Carlton player who remains out of contract.

Austin said the Blues hope to retain the midfielder, but have given him the opportunity to explore a trade.

“I haven't had any discussions with Essendon*, we're still working through with Will's management with what his future looks like. Again, he's out of contract and it his right to see what is out there,” he said.

“In a perfect world we’d love to retain Will.”

Fellow midfielder Paddy Dow is also exploring a trade, but is contracted for the 2023 season.

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Have we missed something re Fogarty contract or has Nic made a mistake there?

sos boys no one wants them (dow,setters ) Austin better role his sleeves up, usually what happens in this scenario one off them has a breakout season and the media runs with the lines "he was out the door or carlton couldnt trade him etc etc " .

We signed him up end of 2020. If Setterfield is the only remaining uncontracted player, Fog must have signed for 3 years, not 2. Makes sense to come over to Carlton on a 3 year deal when Cats wanted to retain him ... probably gave him a one year offer.

If interested parties for Setters and Dow are scarce, I can't see any interest in Fogarty either this year or next. Why would that be the case? Its obvious they don't have any real weapons AFL team's require.

SPS ... Stocker ... Setterfield ... Dow ... Fogarty ... Pickett ... Garlett ... Sumner ... Lamb ... Gorringe ... Lang ... all intorduced to AFL footy with first round picks. All but Garlett, Lang and Fogarty picked by SOS.

Thank god GWS got cold feet with Tomlison for pick 12 ... and we ended with Charlie Curnow.

It can't all be a development issue.

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Why would we be retaining Ed over Setterfield or Dow? Makes no sense to me

To drive Charlie to training.

I am wondering the same thing. Setterfield showed he is a decent player, especially later in the year. I am surprised the club hasn't re-signed him, a 2 year deal seems fair enough.

Yes , in the light that our midfielders are injury prone .

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Yeah I would rather have Setterfield and Stocker on our list next year (and Dow, if he wants to be there and the club thinks he can still play a role) than Ed, Philp & Fogarty.

To be fair though, Austin has said we’d like Setterfield to stay but he wants to explore the market. And with Dow, it’s becoming increasingly clear that player and club have agreed it’s in the best interests of both parties to part ways if a fair trade can be made. Let’s just hope we can salvage something from those two situations.

No offence to Ed - he’s been a very good servant of the club, but I would prefer him to be a playing development coach for our VFL team than occupy a spot on our AFL list in 2023. I’m not exactly losing any sleep over Stocker, but I’d have persisted with him for another year instead TBH.

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At least Ed is a midfielder too

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I get why you're asking.

Ed may be rookied or kept on main list because Austin got the picks he required to do Trade business, he comes cheap, maybe MSD, he's going with the flow bla bla bla, could be lots of reasons.

Our list is getting close to holding so much quality we want to keep them all, but rules don't allow.

Whether it's this year or next Dow, Setterfield Fogarty Ed are closest to the exit door.

Looking forward a couple of years, due to age etc Newman, Plowman, Durdin...will follow.

We will have 2 quality picks in this years draft, Acres and a couple of rookies and possibly a Cat B in Byrne.

Next year, the same.

Lets retain the ones we want to keep and its all good from there imo.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Charlie signed up and took less dollars on the condition Ed gets another year.
They're very close.

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And to keep his mind on the job .

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I hope not. List spots are too valuable to be used like that.

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A fit Ed can play inside, outside, forward or full lockdown. The other blokes can’t.

He doesn’t need to ride Charlie’s coattails.

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Atkins had a real long apprenticeship getting to AFL. He even played for St Marys in Darwin in 2014. Lots of Geelong connections with St Marys including the 3 Christensen brothers (Marty, Damien and Brendan) who all boarded with my family for a couple of seasons.

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