club29 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
club29 wrote:
Voss needs to stay strong here. He is right to focus on the contests. Hard to judge any system of play if we continually lose contests. 1 on 1s, ground ball, marking contests and running races to the ball.
He should also focus on making sure we have a good running team that can compete of 120 mins. Forget the two rucks until pre season.
I would be happier with 3 tight losses against the leagues best where we match them statistically in all key areas (except score) than two floggings and 1 win out of our backside.
I agree with this post except blaming the loss to 2 ruckmen. We didnt lose on the ground because of the 2 rucks.
We lost it on the ground, in the contest ..."we continually lose contests. 1 on 1s, ground ball, marking contests and running races to the ball".
If Harry and Young held onto their marks at either end, and Harry kicked straight ....that would help too. Crows ran the ball and broke our lines because no one was putting heat on their running players imo.
I think the alot flows on from two rucks. The easy exits from fwd 50, the extra time they take seated on the pine meaning less rest for running players, the loss of run. True that it was hard to assess all of that on the weekend with only 3 left on the bench after half time but I prefer 1 ruck and JSOS to finish the year out. Hopefully we can recruit some better running players in the off season and we can revisit 2 giant rucks and 3 tall forwards (chuck, h and jsos).
Thanks for the welcome back Cazzesman. I haven't really been gone. Still reading TalkingCarlton only wasting too much of my footy stuff on Whatsapp with mates.
Well argued point club, and all those 1% improvements can help a bit, but I don't think TDK in the forwardline when Pitto wasnt resting on the bench adds up to a loss at the coal face: contested ball.
Put TDK to the side for a sec.
Charlie and Harry are permanent fixtures in the forwardline. They didn't lay a tackle on the weekend.
We had 2 20yo kids Motlop and Durdin not intimidating anyone in the forwardline, and Fisher and Owies who didnt do much either ... in the forwardline.
There's 6 players who failed us in the forward line and they had nothing to do with the 2 rucks. You'd think there's plenty of run and pressure in the smalls
We need to add competitive running machines who like to tackle and gut run next year.