According to Ockhams Razor on BF, Jack was dropped. has been spoken with, is not happy and will be the sub

I don't know what to say. This is really confusing.

Well, nobody should be happy about being dropped. It’s how you respond that matters.

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If Jack was actually dropped, the other confusing part then becomes - why is Honey being managed? I thought being managed was a euphemism for being rested?

Motlop runs rings around Honey.

Owies, Motlop, Durdin is a good group, but it’s a wee bit toothless… chase, but no tackle… possessions, but no shot on goal.

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Playing the Two big boys plus a Ruckman forward makes us too heavy and slow....JSOS is a better option, more balanced....

Owies brings pressure and Class, a good welcome back.....

in agreement here. so Owies is straight in (must have shown a bit at training) and yet Motlop — who is good for a young player but almost not AFL level yet — stays. JSOS omitted (surely being managed on the QT?! and also making sure we aren’t too tall with Pitto and TDK playing this weekend, excited for that).

i want to know why our system has evolved to the point that Motlop is one out in the goal square or forward 30 as our only forward option, or even when there are other options to square the ball to an unmarked player that we kick to Motlop several times again being easily out marked by a player one to two feet taller than him.

the only two blues players i can think of that regularly out marked taller match ups were eddie betts and greg williams. Motlop is not at that level just yet!

how can our players be instructed to kick to those kind of one on ones and why in those situations isn’t Motlop at least on a fast lead to try and get separation from his opponent? ty e kicker can always kick it over his head directly at goal if Motlop can’t get separation on his opponent. it’s such a momentum killer of a play and you can hear the opposition having a deep sigh of relief and easing the forward half and scoreboard pressure on them. just stop it blues, it’s a really dumb play and it happens multiple times a game.


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he still learning his craft and adding depth to his game. and who would he replace, Hewitt, not likely.. Kennedy, Crippa and Cerra will do more inside centre clearance work i hmgurss to cover for him. Setters outside of clearance. The most obvious player Dow would replace directly in terms of running game and inside/outside is Walsh i guess. when Dow gets bigger he’ll go inside as soon as a spot opens.


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good to hear! he’s lifting it up at VFL, just like TDK used to for years before becoming a regular pick in the first 22.


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Only if they’re all hellbent on playing out of the goal square.

Our best footy has a presence at CHF - a link man up around centre wing. When that’s Harry, the defenders stretch themselves to cover. They know they can afford to, because whether it’s the next kick or the one after, they’ve got us covered in the air.

Charlie is our most productive forward at ground level. Why not embrace that?

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seriously true.

voss keeps saying “as long as it’s rehearsed then i don’t have a problem”.

well the numbers for snaps and bananas from set shots >35m out and on the run from 40m from KPFs and crippa are not good. time for a statistician at the sponsor who does market analytics to call their bluff.

we’re no longer efficient in front of goal and it saps energy from the e entire team to kick three behinds in a row. happens every game now.


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I remember in 1986 when they dropped JSOS Oldman for the Grandfinal.
We went out and had a BOG 5 goal game in the reserves grand final and they won.
He was pissed and brought to tears when he missed out on selection.

I thought back then it was a dumb call.
I think this one is as well





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owies is elite for F50 tackling and was AFL number one for some period of time. and he kicks a goal from a set shot when he gets his chance more often than not. can’t say that about the others.


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Agree with this. Our forward structure has been lost the past month with smaller players playing deep - almost Teague level.
Also Owies straight back is a huge surprise, along with JSoS dropped. Surely wrong message, especially when Honey is managed - give me a break. Honey has done FA. Thankfully Cottrell is in, I mean losing him and Newnes would be a disaster.

They each have significant holes in the offensive side of their game.

Owies gets a couple of shots per game, but they’re rarely from ground balls.
Motlop is a shooter - anywhere, anytime - but he doesn’t get enough of it.
Durdin gets the footy where it counts, but doesn’t pull the trigger enough.

It’ll get there, especially with a bit of continuity as a group, but they’ll be starved of opportunity if we can’t get something going across half forward. The dump kick up the line isn’t so ugly if the interceptors have to work for their money.

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Regarding JSOS being dropped I agree that the forward line would probably look too heavy now that Pittonet is back. I would certainly keep TDK in before JSOS.

Why not give him a try on the wing.

No slower than Setterfield, is a better mark, probably runner, and tackler.

LOB has speed and endurance and nothing else. He is an overrated kick, only tackles when there is no chance of being hurt, supremely average mark.

JSOS is an all round player. He can mark, tackle, kick. He has played in the ruck so must have endurance. Why not give him a try if he is being forced from his usual position.

Give him the rest or play him in the VFL on the wing and next week bring him back as a winger and see how he goes. It is not as if the wings are our strength.

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Round 20 team v Adelaide

Backs: Lachie Plowman - Jacob Weitering - Sam Docherty

Half-backs: Nic Newman - Mitch McGovern - Adam Saad

Centreline: Matthew Cottrell - Patrick Cripps - Matthew Kennedy

Half-forwards: Zac Fisher - Tom De Koning - Matthew Owies

Forwards: Harry McKay - Charlie Curnow - Corey Durdin

Followers: Marc Pittonet - Sam Walsh - Adam Cerra

Interchange: Jesse Motlop - Lochie O'Brien - Will Setterfield - Lewis Young


Emergencies: Paddy Dow - Josh Honey - Jack Newnes - Jack Silvagni

In: Owies, Pittonet
Out: Honey (managed), Silvagni

Whilst I don't agree with Jack being dropped you have to trust the people in charge. IMO Jack has done an amazing job and is a victim of having to fill a role.

I think TDK/Pittonet will become an awesome Ruck duo but I also believe Jack is in our best side. Nice problem to have and will be interesting to see how it plays out

Bringing Owies straight back in says how high he is rated

Yeah , me too . Massive Jack fan . Team balance ? i say taking out all that guts and determination like no other is going to create a big imbalance the opposition way . Nah , don't like it .

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