jake_h03 wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
jake_h03 wrote:
Had to go a long way back to find this thread! Right back to the start of the season. I guess that means we’re going alright and have better things to talk about?
Anyway, I’m going to go out on a limb here but I’m convinced our best lineup does not include 2 ruckmen. I think we’re doing well enough in the ruck and what we gain by having an extra runner in the team is invaluable.
This is really dictated by the fact that we have Charlie, Harry, and JSOS up forward. Throw a resting ruckman in there and it’s way too top heavy IMO. Earlier in the year when we had this setup we saw teams score more heavily against us in shorter periods as they were able to waltz it out of defence too easily and transition to attack, ie the Hawthorn game.
Perhaps it’s horses for courses and will depend on the opposition ruck setup but generally I think we are far better balanced with an extra runner in the rotations and an extra mobile small-mid forward buzzing around
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Would you play one ruck in a Grand Final?
Absolutely. If we had Harry, Charlie, and JSOS forward I’d be terrified if we had both TDK and Pittonet in as well. As I said, give me the extra runner any day
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Cheers jake
In that case, I'd think you'd have to have a ruck as the sub incase No 1 ruck went down.
An extra runner is an extra runner, and you'd hope the tap went our way for the runner to take advantage of that chain. Runners are important.
Walsh provides us with a 2 for 1 running machine, proving the value of a great runner. If Cottrell, LOB and Newnes make the senior team in Finals, or even 2 of them, we have players who can run all day. Weapon, no doubt.
I don't think its a fair fight in a potential Grand Final between Carlton vs Dees with Gawn and Jackson vs TDK and Jack, and I doubt it would happen.
There's no right or wrong from where we sit, we just have to wait to see what the MC does when 2 rucks are available.
I think the 2 rucks has always been here to stay and the trend has been to have a more mobile Forward - Ruck for the chop out, who is a big unit that can ruck. Pies started that trend back in 2010 with the big unit, Brown (ex North Player). I think we have that luxury with TDK and Pitto.
Anyone who thinks that Jack is a stay at home 3rd tall hasn't watched his running game when playing that position. He runs his guts out providing a mismatch in transition. You see Jack in defense at times. For those who think playing TDK is at the expense of Jack, I think that's wrong. Jack is in our best 22 for his heart, soul, and moreso his footy IQ.