Apparently he is a member of conspiracy and anti-vax social media sites.

Firstly welcome to TC (as a poster) macca

You make some fair points that he's one of our own etc but I think the people planning for list life minus Liam are doing so with the realities of the AFL's rules in mind, rather than a "let's dump him" mentality.

The AFL has said no jab, no play. So if he sticks to his guns, he's out. That's the AFL's ruling whether we like it or not.

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He’s a member of TC?

Who Macca or Jones?...or Both?....Or are they the same?

We should have no sympathy for people that lose their job because they don’t want to be vaccinated unless all of us are happy to go back to living in locked down states. The science is clear that the only way to combat the virus is through mass vaccination. Those that choose not to do so out of personal choice (and not for a known medical reason) are not being responsible citizens and are essentially freeloading off of the sacrifices of others. You have to create incentive structures that serve the greater good. When one takes Doc’s situation into account, I do think Liam’s stance is incredibly short sighted and selfish but it’s his choice and no one should cry in their beer if he loses his job over it. IMO getting vaccinated is a small sacrifice in order for life to get back to some semblance of normality.

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It's a free world, well to some degree, and LJ can do what he wants, but equally it's a free world and I'm free to voice my view that on the balance of things I think he's making a big mistake. He's going to lose money, lose his career, no doubt lose the respect of some of his team mates, have his reputation and legacy tarnished to a degree, and ultimately in a team sport, and in particular a team with a captain who has massive health challenges (compromised immune system) , his decision can only be viewed as selfish and not team first. For this latter reason I'd be looking to ship him out pretty quick once it seems certain he won't change his mind. The locker room is arguably the most important thing in team sports. Its 90% above the shoulders. Culture is everything. The players don't need this distraction. There's lots of ways to dice this but from the perspective of team success we need to move on if it seems his mind is set. On the balance of all the info out there, I've lost enormous respect for LJ.

Sorry, I should preface what I said by saying it is not known, publicly at least, why LJs isn't taking the jab. Important to make that point. But I just as much assume it is because he either a. wants to have the right to decide what goes into his body, and/or b. he is concerned about the vaccine. I am making an assumption there. But my view is, irrespective, I believe this is one of those moments in history where we all need to take a jab (or 2, or 3) for the common good. Everyone is doing it bar for a select few.

This article suggests that Jones isn't "anti-vax" but just needing/wanting more time. Going through a hard time dealing with personal loss.
Also takes a swipe at Frank's favourite journo.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-ne ... 83de604905

My guess is he's still waiting for Novavax.

I know a few who are.
Whether it is a stalling tactic and they are waiting for the one that isn't available or whether they are genuine, time will tell.

Guy resigned from work because he's waiting for Novavax.
He's one of a few people I've heard of who don't want Pfizer/Moderna because of the technology used. I think "mRNA" scares them.

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Got a girl at work who hasn't resigned yet but is adamant she wants Novavax and nothing else.
From my very limited knowledge, if I had a choice, I'd have gone Novavax too to be honest but I went under the theory that getting vaxxed with what's available is better than waiting for one that isn't currently available. Having said, I'm not going to judge anyone who has made other decisions. Their choice.

When is the Sinovax coming?

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Wouldn't have a clue but girl at work reckons it has just been approved in UK and she thinks it'll be approved here before the end of the year.

One of my managers at work is waiting for this one too.
She has taken 6 weeks annual leave and hoping to come back some time next month if the vaccine becomes available here.
Not sure what will happen if it isn't.
Where I work we have until the end of January to get fully vaccinated or lose your job.

It's also been reported he isn't budging.
And the clock is ticking.

I'm just guessing he's just Pro Choice, which I respect.

Yes Pooper should be black balled by Carlton in my view

Sounds like it will be approved by end of the year, IF their studies show it to be at least equal to the current vaccines.
Then we wait on supply.

A lot of people are waiting on Novo. Lets see if that was just a delay tactic.
All the Immunology Professors at Australian universities are wondering how they missed all these graduates coming through their classes.

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