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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 97
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:29 pm 
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5 goal run ons...

From where I sit, thats a furphy.

Kicking one goal stops it being 5 goals, and its not like we were pegged back and conceded without attacking.

Its called not taking your opportunities.

Only the port game sticks out as one where this was a problem (both times).

The rest are all varying degrees of sensationalism.



how convenient - there were no 5 goal runs ons, just 4 goal runs plus the added one cos we didn't kick one.

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zoneman wrote:
None of the above candidates really grab me but Voss is probably the best.

It definitely won’t be Voss ... has got too many tickets on himself

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zoneman wrote:
azzablue wrote:
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Surely we have to ponder why these names aren't interested. Has the Carlton brand lost its mojo or has Luke stuffed this up in record time?


Or could it be a simple as
Clarkson and Buckley have families and need/want a break
Lyon didn't want to go through the process and not get the job......not good for the image
Brad Scott already has a cushy job at the AFL on offer.

Pretty simple explanations really when looked at it in the cold light of day and not through the 'media beat-up lens'.

Regards Cazzesman

Pretty simple and only fact to add to that , is Lyon was impatient , sayers said to him , they still working on Clarko and financial terms with hawks and it will take time

Lyon didn’t want to wait cause he knew the conclusion to all this ...


I hope you're right.

In the famous words of the highlander ... there can only be one !!!

Ian aitken is going to be pissed ...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:56 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
zoneman wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Surely we have to ponder why these names aren't interested. Has the Carlton brand lost its mojo or has Luke stuffed this up in record time?


Or could it be a simple as
Clarkson and Buckley have families and need/want a break
Lyon didn't want to go through the process and not get the job......not good for the image
Brad Scott already has a cushy job at the AFL on offer.

Pretty simple explanations really when looked at it in the cold light of day and not through the 'media beat-up lens'.

Regards Cazzesman

Pretty simple and only fact to add to that , is Lyon was impatient , sayers said to him , they still working on Clarko and financial terms with hawks and it will take time

Lyon didn’t want to wait cause he knew the conclusion to all this ...


I hope you're right.

In the famous words of the highlander ... there can only be one !!!

Ian aitken is going to be pissed ...


Azza. Is there any truth to the rumours in BF that we are just working out his pay with Hawthorn, where we will pay half of his salary next year and sign him to 5 years. With stipulations that we are flexible with his travelling interstate for games next year ?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:10 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
And your sir are the Lead Clown.

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As Rodney Rude once said:
I feel he’s more like the ring master of a three ring circus.
Himself and two other a$$h@les.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:14 pm 
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Drewgirl whilst entertaining to read we need to take this with a grain of salt this is bigfooty after all and apart from a small few posters most of it is made up and a bit of one up manship

It wouldn’t surprise me if they were still trying with Clarkson BUT more likely in my view now to be a young coach which as I suggested before isn’t necessarily the wrong move

Of course you would get Clarkson if you could if not NO ONE else should be a walk up start

I was happy to get RL but if he wasn’t going to subject himself to the process after not coaching for 2 years he doesn’t want it enough or is concerned that the process may find him out
I’m confident we will get a good coach bug the trick is to get very good people around them


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Mods, firstly: Happy Fathers' Day to those of you who have offspring.
Secondly, could you please stop Poster Walsh puting those big images on TC?
Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:51 pm 
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Surely we have to ponder why these names aren't interested. Has the Carlton brand lost its mojo or has Luke stuffed this up in record time?[/quote]

Or could it be a simple as
Clarkson and Buckley have families and need/want a break
Lyon didn't want to go through the process and not get the job......not good for the image
Brad Scott already has a cushy job at the AFL on offer.

Pretty simple explanations really when looked at it in the cold light of day and not through the 'media beat-up lens'.

Regards Cazzesman


Azza. Is there any truth to the rumours in BF that we are just working out his pay with Hawthorn, where we will pay half of his salary next year and sign him to 5 years. With stipulations that we are flexible with his travelling interstate for games next year ?[/quote][/quote][/quote]



All I know from the water cooler talk at dictator Dan’s favourite transport company ... that’s it’s Clarko

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CFC8795 wrote:
Mods, firstly: Happy Fathers' Day to those of you who have offspring.
Secondly, could you please stop Poster Walsh puting those big images on TC?
Thanks in advance.


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Could not agree more.

As for the 5 goal runs, the outcome is concerning but the recurring inability to address the momentum swings is the issue. As I've said elsewhere on TC, I've heard at least 2 players get asked about the 5 goal runs against (including Weitering) and their responses are the concerning part. Both said Teague encourages the players to keep attacking when the opposition get on a run.
Surely our strategic diversity should be more comprehensive?
We were too one paced with the ball and we fail to adapt when the situation requires it. There are times where you need to maintain possession, take the heat out of the oppositions momentum and drag the contest back to a neutral position. Continuing to attack doesn't cut it.

I've watched VFL football teams play with more strategic diversity than we have. The options to change gear are utilised by the on field team leaders when the situation demands it. When have you seen Carlton do it?
There were no alternative options. The players openly admit it.

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azzablue wrote:
All I know from the water cooler talk at dictator Dan’s favourite transport company ... that’s it’s Clarko


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If that was to actually happen, can you image the amount of egg being scrapped from faces across the entire Media landscape.

I know Little Johnny Howard had trouble saying........sssssssssoooooorrrrrrryyyyyy, but how do reckon a few on SEN, Fox Footy and FC would go.

I'm not expecting it, but damn it would be so, so sweet in the first instance. :thanks: :thanks:

The 'Yeah But's' would be superb to listen to.......

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Where's the Nathan Buckley option?

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dannyboy wrote:
thryleon wrote:
5 goal run ons...

From where I sit, thats a furphy.

Kicking one goal stops it being 5 goals, and its not like we were pegged back and conceded without attacking.

Its called not taking your opportunities.

Only the port game sticks out as one where this was a problem (both times).

The rest are all varying degrees of sensationalism.



how convenient - there were no 5 goal runs ons, just 4 goal runs plus the added one cos we didn't kick one.



Seriously though go take a look. Its not like we copped 5 goals in quick succession it happens over a whole quarter or maybe even with a quarter time break.

People use the 5 goal in a row thing as a reason we are uncompetitive, but its not quite true.

Anyway, I'm not going to convince people otherwise and that's not my goal, its to challenge the thought process, because all sides are capable of it under the current rules, and I can point to the Melbourne vs Geelong game in round 23 as an instance where they both did it.

Or you can shrug it off.

Your choice.


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Where is the Sam Docherty option.

Could be a master-stroke

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FWIW I'm thinking Kingsley should be asked to apply....(if he hasn't been already). I voted for him (but that means nought, I just think he would be good for us)

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Cazzesman wrote:
azzablue wrote:
All I know from the water cooler talk at dictator Dan’s favourite transport company ... that’s it’s Clarko


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If that was to actually happen, can you image the amount of egg being scrapped from faces across the entire Media landscape.

I know Little Johnny Howard had trouble saying........sssssssssoooooorrrrrrryyyyyy, but how do reckon a few on SEN, Fox Footy and FC would go.

I'm not expecting it, but damn it would be so, so sweet in the first instance. :thanks: :thanks:

The 'Yeah But's' would be superb to listen to.......

Regards Cazzesman


Gerard Whateley is public enemy #1
God I hope the Cats go out this week

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99prelim wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
azzablue wrote:
All I know from the water cooler talk at dictator Dan’s favourite transport company ... that’s it’s Clarko


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If that was to actually happen, can you image the amount of egg being scrapped from faces across the entire Media landscape.

I know Little Johnny Howard had trouble saying........sssssssssoooooorrrrrrryyyyyy, but how do reckon a few on SEN, Fox Footy and FC would go.

I'm not expecting it, but damn it would be so, so sweet in the first instance. :thanks: :thanks:

The 'Yeah But's' would be superb to listen to.......

Regards Cazzesman


Gerard Whateley is public enemy #1
God I hope the Cats go out this week


My preference would be cats get smashed by 10 goals by the dees and then announce Clarko / cook next Monday to make that Gerard wankerly sweat in his chair for 3 hours ... and Carlton supporters bombarding him with calls

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azzablue wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
azzablue wrote:
All I know from the water cooler talk at dictator Dan’s favourite transport company ... that’s it’s Clarko


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If that was to actually happen, can you image the amount of egg being scrapped from faces across the entire Media landscape.

I know Little Johnny Howard had trouble saying........sssssssssoooooorrrrrrryyyyyy, but how do reckon a few on SEN, Fox Footy and FC would go.

I'm not expecting it, but damn it would be so, so sweet in the first instance. :thanks: :thanks:

The 'Yeah But's' would be superb to listen to.......

Regards Cazzesman


Gerard Whateley is public enemy #1
God I hope the Cats go out this week


My preference would be cats get smashed by 10 goals by the dees and then announce Clarko / cook next Monday to make that Gerard wankerly sweat in his chair for 3 hours ... and Carlton supporters bombarding him with calls

That would be glorious …

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thryleon wrote:
dannyboy wrote:
thryleon wrote:
5 goal run ons...

From where I sit, thats a furphy.

Kicking one goal stops it being 5 goals, and its not like we were pegged back and conceded without attacking.

Its called not taking your opportunities.

Only the port game sticks out as one where this was a problem (both times).

The rest are all varying degrees of sensationalism.



how convenient - there were no 5 goal runs ons, just 4 goal runs plus the added one cos we didn't kick one.



Seriously though go take a look. Its not like we copped 5 goals in quick succession it happens over a whole quarter or maybe even with a quarter time break.

People use the 5 goal in a row thing as a reason we are uncompetitive, but its not quite true.

Anyway, I'm not going to convince people otherwise and that's not my goal, its to challenge the thought process, because all sides are capable of it under the current rules, and I can point to the Melbourne vs Geelong game in round 23 as an instance where they both did it.

Or you can shrug it off.

Your choice.


50 games, 23 times the opposition got a run on of 5 or more unanswered goals. Port kicked 19 unanswered.

Those are real facts.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:47 pm 
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Before that it was 4 wins out of 40 games.

It actually doesn't prove anything anything.

What does the 5 goal run ons prove pray tell?

Teague was in no man's land and either needed to be backed in beyond next season or sacked but the 5 goal run ons have nothing to do with the price of fish.

The fact that supporters point to it at all proves how much they buy into crap commentary from the afl sensationalist media.

We were too defensive under Bolton and need to be more attacking. Too attacking under Teague need to be more defensive. They use in game footage proving their points either way they want to critique it, and then they replay it ad nauseum.

Look, I always wondered what the point of pointing out a 5 goal run on is, particularly when in the midst of it happening we have executed a forward press for 10 minutes, kicked 4 behinds, only to concede 2 goals from turnovers inside forward 50.

A bigger problem was the lack of development in our younger players as far as im concerned. Too many weren't kicking on and not getting much of a chance to show if they were up to it.


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