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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 97
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:02 pm 
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..don't shoot the messenger..


Go for your life if you want to believe his nonsense but I'll make my own choices on who's opinion I value.
I have zero respect for that selfish old man and his deluded opinion means jack shit to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:12 pm 
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*says not to shoot the messenger*

*proceeds to quote most shootable messenger there is*

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:47 pm 
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Ed Langdon: "I've come from five years under the Ross Lyon method so it's a nice change to have someone as cool, calm and collected as Simon Goodwin. I haven't heard him raise his voice once when he's been at the club."

https://twitter.com/Benny_Williams_/status/1431645722869334022?s=20



What does he mean by " I was a skinny 18yo Private School Kid.....I didn't value intensity or pressure or chasing and tackling..."

Entitled, because he was a Private School Kid?

That does it. New school next year for junior!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:49 pm 
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I wouldn't read a word from that self serving, deluded old man.


Deluded Narcissist....FIGJAM.

I wish he would just retire into the sunset.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:22 pm 
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A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:37 pm 
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thryleon wrote:
A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


I'm still waiting on you validating a previous anti-board statement before considering this one.

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Michael voss has been quoted as being unhappy regarding the lack of process surrounding the Teague appointment and thought he was a pawn in that negotiation.

Link?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:44 pm 
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thryleon wrote:
A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


...........and yet Blue Vain and bondi are spot on. I had the 'joy' of sitting next to him 3 times over 2 days at some meals.

Being the junior man, after the 2nd meal, I asked one of the others in attendance how it was that I kept ending up next to the Coach.

He had a sly grin and said....... 'because no one else whats to sit there and hear him talk about himself'.

:lol: :lol: I got the gist after the 3rd time. At least he didn't have to worry about me interrupting his train of thought. :eek:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:47 pm 
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Malthouse may have been a bad choice for us.

However, his message is another reference point that we have work to do as a football club. He is not the first by any stretch.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:55 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
thryleon wrote:
A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


...........and yet Blue Vain and bondi are spot on. I had the 'joy' of sitting next to him 3 times over 2 days at some meals.

Being the junior man, after the 2nd meal, I asked one of the others in attendance how it was that I kept ending up next to the Coach.

He had a sly grin and said....... 'because no one else whats to sit there and hear him talk about himself'.

:lol: :lol: I got the gist after the 3rd time. At least he didn't have to worry about me interrupting his train of thought. :eek:

Regards Cazzesman



His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:01 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
thryleon wrote:
A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


I'm still waiting on you validating a previous anti-board statement before considering this one.

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Michael voss has been quoted as being unhappy regarding the lack of process surrounding the Teague appointment and thought he was a pawn in that negotiation.

Link?


Sorry, I quote news snippets and the odd piece I read on Facebook.

I was the one saying we should go for him next, but soon afterwards I read the quote.

Now that could be code for he wants more cash, but im not rubbing shoulders with these guys and hearing he was passed off at flying to Melbourne to interview at the time makes me think there's some truth to it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:02 pm 
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thryleon wrote:
His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


The only reason? Not because the board were desperate to take the heat off themselves?
Not because the board thought we had stagnated after making consecutive finals campaigns?
Not because we expected to make finals and didn't?

Because of our "club culture". :?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:34 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
thryleon wrote:
His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


The only reason? Not because the board were desperate to take the heat off themselves?
Not because the board thought we had stagnated after making consecutive finals campaigns?
Not because we expected to make finals and didn't?

Because of our "club culture". :?


Yep, the quick fix. Bring in malthouse who will add a defensive layer to our team and win a flag.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:41 pm 
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thryleon wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
thryleon wrote:
A broken clock is still right twice a day.

Mick's on point with this one.


...........and yet Blue Vain and bondi are spot on. I had the 'joy' of sitting next to him 3 times over 2 days at some meals.

Being the junior man, after the 2nd meal, I asked one of the others in attendance how it was that I kept ending up next to the Coach.

He had a sly grin and said....... 'because no one else whats to sit there and hear him talk about himself'.

:lol: :lol: I got the gist after the 3rd time. At least he didn't have to worry about me interrupting his train of thought. :eek:

Regards Cazzesman



His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


Lets not get carried away with malthouse and his paid article which most is filler, avoiding his responsibility in our demise.

In all that blabbering fiction he makes the point, and its an opinion piece, claiming the Board was focused on the past, AND, the Board needs to focus on the future more. That's it. That applied to all clubs.

Its just HIS opinion FFS.

Effectively he lays the blame on the Board to deflect any fault he had in our demise. Sorry, doesn't cut it.

The same dick who didn't want to give Waite more than one season thinking Waite wouldn'ty leave the club under his watch, so what happens? Waite left and played another 5 years for North, Finals, and was North's leading goalkicker, when we struggled to score goals. Waite was nominated for AA.

The same Malthouse who got rid of the only bloke who could protect the young, and fly the flag when the going got tough, and he's still playing and we could use him today: Mitch Robinson. Malthouse got zero return for the club for those 2 players.

Then there's our speedy goalkicking small forward he got rid of for pick 42 to the Dees, where he went on and continued to kick goals for them, run and carry, and a leading goal kicker. I talking the speedy Garlett. I think we got Foster with the pick for Garlett.

Then there's Laidler who fell out of favour Malthouse, not fitting into the new coach's defensive structure; he played only one senior match for the season after playing the first 4, and requested to be traded at the end of the year, again seeking more greater opportunities for senior football so he went off to Swans where he played 50 games and finals, and is still at that club developing the young kids.

Hell, Malthouse led us to a @#$%&! spoon. He was a Head Case of a Head Coach that caused friction throughout the club when we needed unity.

Malthouse thought he was bigger than the club, and still thinks he's the biggest dude in football land.

He's delusional and has a distorted view of himself.

If malthouse's opinions resonate with you, then good luck to you. He's got you under his spell.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:53 pm 
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thryleon wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
thryleon wrote:
His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


The only reason? Not because the board were desperate to take the heat off themselves?
Not because the board thought we had stagnated after making consecutive finals campaigns?
Not because we expected to make finals and didn't?

Because of our "club culture". :?


Yep, the quick fix. Bring in malthouse who will add a defensive layer to our team and win a flag.


Like I said before, Malthouse was in the media in 2012, spruiking for the Head Coach job. He promoted himself and gave everyone listening the impression he could get the list to a Top 4 spot. He was desperate to return to a Head Coach role after being sacked.

Malthouse said he'd bring in a defensive layer, not the Board. It sounded good for everyone at the time, even ratten's best mate Kernahan. The selection was seen a master stroke at the time, in the media. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Keep potting the Board for everything.

This bloke went on a book tour with his daughter when he should have started his new role as the Head Coach, meeting the players, working on a game plan...and so on and so on. He's in the Media to make headlines, otherwise he'd be at home making cups of tea with Betty: the only person to stick with him all his football life, coz no one else would.

There's 4 new Board Members, with great skills, and new wonderful Football Director with a great football brain, and a new President who can perform aplomb with media, represent our club with respect and has a vision and an air of professionalism we have not seen at the Presidential level since George Harris imo.

Lets move forward, and back the Board and back the new coach and get these kids developed to play a role with a sound game plan that has more chance to win games than Teague with his Gift.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:32 pm 
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Thanks for your thoughts Malthouse. Weird flex, but OK.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:45 pm 
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Good article from someone who has coached here. Let's see how many shoot the messenger rather than read the message......lol.................

Mick Malthouse: Why Carlton will remain trapped in a time warp unless board changes direction

So Carlton has won 16 premierships I was once told at a board meeting. I love history but rear-vision mirror stuff doesn’t win games at footy clubs, writes Mick Malthouse. (Herald Sun)

I love history. I love acknowledging the greats of the past. But in football, past club greats and past feats don’t win you games of football today or tomorrow.
In another board meeting I was informed of a five-year plan to win a premiership. I was in my second year at the club and I was told we were already three years into a plan that I was completely unaware of. They asked for my assessment, but didn’t like the answer.
It came as a great shock to most of the board members that the plan was totally unachievable in that time frame, and that in fact, until the constraints of contract management were lifted we were going to stay a middle-of-the-road team.
Too many players on an ageing list were overpaid or over-committed in lengthy contracts, in contrast to their ability. There was no room to move, or even to retain star power on the hit list of opposing clubs, and until we could afford multiple trades or multiple draft picks we were carrying the burden like baggage.
This did not sit well with several board members. But without this reality check Carlton was always going to be looking at the teams above it.
. (SB)



I know this bloke forgets what he had for breakfast most mornings, but surely he'd remember signing Thomas.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 11:20 pm 
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Hiring Malthouse is why we're in the position we're in now.

We sacked Ratten after a bad season to hire the 'best' - who proceeded to do no better than Ratten in his first year and then decided he needed to blow up the list so they could play his patented brand of finals-proof footy. We fell into a hole, never got within a @#$%&! mile of finals, he got the arse and we had to start all over again from a much worse spot.

Say what you like about the holes in the list during the Ratten years, but they could have been fixed with some half-decent recruiting, development and management. Malthouse took the same list nowhere and set us back another decade by being an arrogant old [REDACTED].


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Madhouse ... :mad:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:25 am 
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thryleon wrote:
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thryleon wrote:
His comments are spot on. Our club culture is the only reason we hired him.


The only reason? Not because the board were desperate to take the heat off themselves?
Not because the board thought we had stagnated after making consecutive finals campaigns?
Not because we expected to make finals and didn't?

Because of our "club culture". :?


Yep, the quick fix. Bring in malthouse who will add a defensive layer to our team and win a flag.


So the "only reason" was our club culture AND to add a defensive layer AND to win a flag?
Any others?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:27 am 
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Madhouse ... :mad:


I was thinking of you as I was typing away. :lol:

I did want to refer him to Madhouse, but I hoped you'd come in with that one.

You picked it long before many of us mere mortals.

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