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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:06 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
I'd rather pick the best tall available at pick 6. We are super light down back after Jones/Weitering and Jones is 30.

I’m wondering if the club sees Kemp as a long term key defender?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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we need to fluke a high pick that going to successful/ sam collins ,jake riccardi, hawks kozitsche chb now good fwd for example


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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I thought the top end of last year’s draft was a golden opportunity to find a 10 year defensive tall. That said, there’s no shortage of over-age talls going around in the NAB league this season.

Might be a good year to take multiple picks inside the top 25.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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How would Sam Weideman go at CHB?

I’d like us to look at trade for Duggan, Dylan Stephenson, and Ricardi and Cam Guthrie or Jed Bews as FA


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


Kemp is 2cm shorter than Crippa.

I think the plan is to teach him as an intercept defender from his training regime reported on website, but he based his game on Crippas and played as a mid and forward as well. He's versatile but not a KPD or a KPF circa 2022 IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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bondiblue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


Kemp is 2cm shorter than Crippa.

I think the plan is to teach him as an intercept defender from his training regime reported on website, but he based his game on Crippas and played as a mid and forward as well. He's versatile but not a KPD or a KPF circa 2022 IMO.


Kemp's best position is probably midfield, though he looks so versatile he can hopefully play anywhere on the ground a supercharged Glen Manton maybe.

Too early to say needs a big pre season behind him.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


We can't keep them all.
Lets start with offering our young up and coming stars of the future: O'Brien, Williamson, Gibbons, Kennedy....??? for Collins at GCS????

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 Post subject: List Management 2021
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Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


Our young talls are there on the list, their just all injured.

Curnow, Pittonet, Marchbank, Mirkov…

Not to mention MacDonald and McGovern.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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sinbagger wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


Our young talls are there on the list, their just all injured.

Curnow, Pittonet, Marchbank, Mirkov…

Not to mention MacDonald and McGovern.


Two might not play again, ones a trier at best and the other has never played.

MacDonald got dumped by Melbourne and McGovern is the most frustrating player in a long time


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 Post subject: List Management 2021
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DesEnglish wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


Our young talls are there on the list, their just all injured.

Curnow, Pittonet, Marchbank, Mirkov…

Not to mention MacDonald and McGovern.


Two might not play again, ones a trier at best and the other has never played.

MacDonald got dumped by Melbourne and McGovern is the most frustrating player in a long time


Fair point, but Walsh was asking why the vfl team was short of talls, the answer is they’re all injured, it’s not that we don’t have any.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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sinbagger wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Any tall back would be playing VFL - I am actually not sure how we are going to fit Marchbank into the team if he ever returns.

Brodie Kemp just turned 20 y.o and looks about 193cm 87kg - he will need games next year.


We need depth and if we can recruit a player that pushes Jones out of the team then it improves us significantly (I rate Jones). Marchbank probably won’t be back until mid year and will have missed so much football it may be irrelevant.

Kemp’s not tall enough for KPP


Probably right - I watched the Blues at VFL past weekend and some games on TV and one thing that has stuck out all season is that the VFL is lacking young talls in every part of the ground.

How do we get them without sacrificing the excess of young talented mids we have?


Our young talls are there on the list, their just all injured.

Curnow, Pittonet, Marchbank, Mirkov…

Not to mention MacDonald and McGovern.


Non of those could cover for Jones or Weitering in a LPD role.

Gov too short.
Marchbank too light and more 3rd tall.

Goddard provided some sort of cover, and I guess Oscar does the same if not better, but he's injured too.
They're out there, but we have to identify KPD's with potential for cover and to take over from Jones in a meaningful way in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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On the AFL site today they still list Jacob Hopper from GWS as out of contract.

Just turned 24. He's a contested ball gun.

Worth a loooooog hard look.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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I agree totally. And with the emergence of Tom Green, they have a bit of sameness with the 2 of them playing midfield which has caused them a few headaches.

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Just what we need agree entirely gents


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Cazzesman wrote:
On the AFL site today they still list Jacob Hopper from GWS as out of contract.

Just turned 24. He's a contested ball gun.

Worth a loooooog hard look.

Regards Cazzesman



He's the mad dog we want at the coal face.
Dishing it out to Walsh and Dow when Crippa isn't.

Imagine Cripps and Hopper looking after each other in the middle. in a brutal sense, leaving an outside runner to take advantage of their spoils.

SOS tried to get him 3-4 years ago, but was rejected.

Always preferred Hopper to Dylan Shiel.

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Be a nice addition to our collection of players from the Riverina.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2021
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Main List (32 retained)
Re-sign: Kemp, Curnow, Newnes, Silvagni, Fogarty, Pittonet, Gibbons, Newman, Petrevski-Seton
Rookie: Ramsay
Retire/Delist: Casboult, O'Brien, Murphy, Setterfield

Rookie List (5 + 1 cat B retained)
Promote: McDonald
Re-sign: Honey, Parks, Owies (cat B), Kennedy... Mirkov already retained
Retire/Delist: Betts, Boyd, Cottrell

I believe a ready-made CHF will be at the top of the shopping list, ideally somewhere in the middle of the price bracket. Sam Day (admittedly, addresses NONE of the injury concerns), Esava Ratugolea (bonus 2nd ruck solve) or Jake Riccardi should meet the price point. I would have Day as clubhouse leader, mostly because we'd retain all of our chips.

The brief glimpses we saw of McDonald were enough to convince me that he should be retained. He plays with the right sort of intent that we are looking for at either end of the ground.

Add Charlie McKay as a F/S and auto-fill the rest. Job done.

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