I haven’t said it before but I will say now, having watched that documentary, which I thought was awesome, my opinion of Langer plummeted, he is so petulant and as soon as someone stood up to him that player is on the outer. If anything the doco showed how Ponting comes across head and shoulders above Langer as a leader, a thinker, a strategist and a motivator.

As for Teague, there’s problems but watching Hawthorn it’s a conundrum. They still have the same coach as they did when they won four premierships, but they are woeful.

Last week I posted for the umpteenth time that our game plan is all wrong.
Others have posted about it as well.
It's a simple tweak but Teague is all about chaos goals and bringing the footy to the ground and defensive pressure and so on ad nauseum.

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS LET HARRY STAY DEEP AND LEAD FROM THE SQUARE WITHIN A 45 DEGREE ARC AT THE BALL CARRIER.

He did it three times tonight for three goals, all far too late. His first effort was the usual impossible angle from the pocket.
He tackled someone inside our defensive fifty at one stage. Why on earth is he required to go there?
At one stage Fisher, I think it was got the footy on our HB line and there was nobody to kick it to except presumably Adelaide defenders who were out of screen.

Teague has a rigid plan that can't react to run-ons. We know that. Out defenders are so high they have no hope of cluttering up the opposition attacking zone if they move the footy. It's wht we have so many easy goals kicked against us from so few F50 entries. If the defenders have the opportunity to get back, it's OK but we repeatedly see coast to coast goals.

I knew 4 minutes into the game we were going to lose. They weren't 'on'. They were second to every contest and missed every pass by foot possible.
I'm off the Teague train. I was on it last year but I have officially got off the train several platforms ago. He isn't up to it.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

Teague says we are not far off then he says we have a long way to go well which one is it flower?

It's not a good sign when your coach becomes a broken record.

We need to get better.

We need to play four quarters.

We need to do the basics.

Yeah no shit Einstein. Here's a telegraph for you, not all fans are dumb. How about you tell us why we have gone backwards and how you'll fix it.

Not his best moments...

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

54% win loss ratio down to 41% assuming we lose to Lions.
That's some fall.
And that's with a selection policy that favours experience.
Hmmmmmm.
If I can see this can Liddle and Co see it?

Easier to talk in cliches when you don't have the answers.

Seen a few say Teague has lost them, add me to the list.

Awful game style

Playing players out of position/not to their strengths

Youth gone backwards/poor development

Meek presentation and leads the team to be meek , we are the most timid/least aggressive side in the comp.

The consistent runs of goals against suggests a complete lack of ability on game day to change anything up or convey a message to the players.

I really want him to be successful but i fear it is yet another failed appointment

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I was at a function he spoke at last year, pre Bolton being sakced, and I was of the opinion I hoped he never became head coach. But people on here were bullish then and wanted him in, so I took a step back and besides he had good results at the Bullants. Once he was appointed and we beat Brisbane, what could I say? The players seemed to love him and we were winning, which was a change from 3 wins in 32 games prior to his appointment.

It's hard to work out. Our defence has been overall pretty good, and our forward line not bad despite some injury issues. It essentially comes down to periods of our midfield letting the easy ball slip out.

I'm not so optimistic/positive about the forwards.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

It feels like we get scored on through rebounds from our forward half quite a bit and there seems to be 2 reasons for it:
1: poor kicking efficiency leading to turnovers. Turn the ball over when all our players are moving forward or trying to get to their defensive position, and you’re going to get scored on going the other way.
2: poor positioning and 2-way running from our running players (small forwards, mids and rebounding backs).

Some tweaks in those areas (and I understand they are significant flaws) and I actually think we have a real team on our hands.

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@cecil_anderson

I am to a degree, given what CCurnow has shown, and I feel JSlivagni provides. That said, we may never see CCurnow again? And despite recent results, McGovern has missed a lot of games with injury. The Mckay/Curnow/McGovern forward line looks doomed to ever being realised.

Yes...time will tell, and here's hoping...again.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

the old blokes who won back to back flags in 81/82 are huge teague fans.. even the 87 flag boys

I think I will stick with them. Teague game style is simple...never lose a contest, stay defensively strong, play fast attacking football.. it will take longer than one pre season to de boltonize them

He has to move on the oldies, all of them, or they'll kill him.

Every single week we do it and no improvement. Just not good enough for "professional" footballers.

Yes and don’t turn up to play round 1 and 2 round 16 and 17 same don’t learn this team
Very disappointing we are making the same mistakes for 6 months

Do Something

Continue to have bad or good opposition kick multiple goals against us continually
Do something to rectify
Not even consistent during games

One thing he does in press conferences really bugs me, and it's something that seems to be an issue since the Ratts days.

It's the constant use of the words "maybe" and "probably".

We want clear, definitive statements.

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#GUILTY

He said it in first sentence - we want to play to a standard for four quarters and we're not doing that we get beaten in the contest.

"all the good teams do the basics right for four quarters while under pressure and we are not there"