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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:59 pm 
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Yeah. Here's to ya!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:00 pm 
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Been a very weird day for me personally. Tough day to have a birthday when you are pretty damn depressed with where we find ourselves again.

The presser was hard to watch. Really felt for Bolts. All class.

Ultimately I just desperately want us to be a legitimate power again. To achieve the sustained success we are building for.

I’d hoped that Bolts would be part of that but the last month or so it became increasingly evident that wouldn’t be the case.

He’s done some incredibly hard yards and you could argue that he didn’t stand much chance with our list profile, injuries etc.

I thank him wholeheartedly for all his efforts.

I now have no choice but to embrace the incumbent and we go again.

#BoundByBlue. For better or worse.

Happy birthday.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:02 pm 
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kezza wrote:
MPH78 wrote:
Been a very weird day for me personally. Tough day to have a birthday when you are pretty damn depressed with where we find ourselves again.

The presser was hard to watch. Really felt for Bolts. All class.

Ultimately I just desperately want us to be a legitimate power again. To achieve the sustained success we are building for.

I’d hoped that Bolts would be part of that but the last month or so it became increasingly evident that wouldn’t be the case.

He’s done some incredibly hard yards and you could argue that he didn’t stand much chance with our list profile, injuries etc.

I thank him wholeheartedly for all his efforts.

I now have no choice but to embrace the incumbent and we go again.

#BoundByBlue. For better or worse.

Happy birthday.


Good point.

Onya Kezza :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:02 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
Richmond assistant coach?



https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1135485172504072193

I have no doubt Bolts will be a highly sought after assistant coach next year. It’s perhaps unrealistic that he’d be that at Carlton, but I would love him in the role the Barker currently occupies.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:03 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
Richmond assistant coach?



https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1135485172504072193

I think there will lots of club chasing him.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:05 pm 
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The shortcomings are in List Management but the President is not going to point the finger at one of his best mates.

That decision on draft night had a lot to do with today's result... imo


I really don’t get the hand wringing over that decision.

Stocker looks like he’ll be a 200 game player already and we’ll probably have a pick around 10 to add to that versus one of Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Weitering or Walsh.

If that pick around 10 turns out to play 200 games we’ve made off like bandits.

If not we still have a very good player.

We need as much talent as we can find and turning one first rounder into two is well worth trying.

It’s not like all our pick 1s have been unmitigated successes.


This

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:39 pm 
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Good luck BB, and thanks so much for your efforts!

Loved your passion, and commitment to make this club strong.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:46 pm 
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Personally, I’m embarrassed and mostly disappointed by the decision of the club today as it wreaks of “old Carlton” and I feel we are once again taking a step backwards to “allegedly” go forwards.

How can the board hold its head up when they are the one’s that made the decision to hire an assistant coach as head coach that has had no AFL playing experience. Then change 56 players in 3 years, remove pretty much all experienced players from our list and decimate our midfield fully knowing the new rule changes with runners and the need for experience. And as the final straw of incompetence and lack of proving we have changed at the top they chose to publicly sack a decent bloke rather than give him the opportunity to walk away like Brad Scott. A smarter decision would have been getting in another Neil Craig for him not a geriatric Walls that the game has passed by.

Some on here might think this is good for the club and I get the need for wins, but what if Teague doesn’t get any more wins for the year and we are no better off (which is most likely as he has done wonders for our forwards thus far), then what…sack everyone? To me this is a sad day and another blight on our once great club.

And my greatest fear is that we start loosing good kids like Crippa (even though OR thinks he’ll stay), you could see clearly how devastated he was losing his mentor in the presser. We better hope BB doesn’t move west as an assistant. And I’m pretty sure there will be more kids in the same boat questioning our club, contracted or not. And what about Andrew Russel who came across most likely for BB.

Let’s just hope I’m wrong with the above and things change, otherwise you can forget us attracting any A grade midfield talent at the end of the year and then we are still on the same journey as Mark has conveniently pointed out in the presser and no better off.

If any one has questioned the integrity and passion Bolton has for our club and the players, then tell me what sacked coach would sit through 20min of that uninspiring and sometimes contradicting dribble by Mark and Cain.

Let’s just hope the powers to be don’t hire Brad Scott because to me this is another Malthouse decision. And if they do, I will still follow the club but I will not be renewing any of the memberships in my house.

Good luck Bolts on your new future and please don’t take too many players or flog us too much at what ever club you go to.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:51 pm 
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Just got around to listening to the entire presser....

Bolts & Liddle = super impressive. It makes me sad that a person of Bolts’ calibre is lost to our club.

The man who appointed them both, and sat between them today, is never a good performer on the mic. However, today he wasn’t the complete public speaking disaster area that he can be. He got the main points over well enough I thought.

I am genuinely sad about Bolts leaving. More than I thought I would be. It’s a completely different feeling to when Pagan, Ratten & Malthouse left.

I understand the club’s decision....but I have a nagging suspicion we’ll regret it. Time will tell.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:03 pm 
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Cripps' body language has been especially flat this past month and his numbers are down. I wonder if there's more to it than "he's getting a hard tag now".... as if he didn't before?

Maybe the board's shitting themselves about losing him (or others) and want to make sure they can show him something, and attract mature players to help him at years' end.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:07 pm 
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robertbb wrote:
Cripps' body language has been especially flat this past month and his numbers are down. I wonder if there's more to it than "he's getting a hard tag now".... as if he didn't before?

Maybe the board's shitting themselves about losing him (or others) and want to make sure they can show him something, and attract mature players to help him at years' end.


or he's carrying an injury that we have not been informed of.

He doesn't come across as the kind of player that would drop his head.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:09 pm 
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Appreciate the wishes everyone, cheers.

Hard not to wonder what has broken down internally over the last month or so. It was rather stark.

If possible, would love OR or any other insider to shed some further light on this please?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:11 pm 
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See how Teague goes
With this list not much hope
And pretty much the same story for the 2020 and beyond coach

What’s the chance of old Uncle Brucee saying to the worm President in waiting get rid of this bloke
who relays the message to no knackers Loguidice
Oh shit
I better not piss Bruce off

This club is temporarily rooted
At least Talking Footy questioned the club minus Bolton

A club run by a group of empty suits


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:16 pm 
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I'm expecting 2-3 more wins this year and 8+ in 2020.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:24 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
I'm expecting 2-3 more wins this year and 8+ in 2020.


If that’s a realistic expectation (and I think it is), are we saying that the club couldn’t have achieved that with Bolts?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:33 pm 
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A tough day for this club.

Would loved for it to have been Bolts to be celebrating with the boys should that day come. And if the players do actually lift their performance this week, I'm not sure what I'll think.

BTW, some of the points Sidefx made, actually made me even sadder than some of our recent performances.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 pm 
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I' m not assuming we'll win any games. I just know Bolts was no longer the man. As for Crippa being devastated, really? I must have been watching different footage. Both he and Doc showed respect but I thought they looked relieved. If you don't think they were consulted at some stage about this I reckon you are nutsy unicorns.
The club is moving forward.
Plenty to get excited about.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:34 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
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I'm expecting 2-3 more wins this year and 8+ in 2020.


If that’s a realistic expectation (and I think it is), are we saying that the club couldn’t have achieved that with Bolts?




We'll simply never know.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:37 pm 
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I'm simply not expert enough to know of his coaching flaws.

But I'm still confident in saying that our loss will be another team's gain. :sad:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:44 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Just got around to listening to the entire presser....

Bolts & Liddle = super impressive. It makes me sad that a person of Bolts’ calibre is lost to our club.

The man who appointed them both, and sat between them today, is never a good performer on the mic. However, today he wasn’t the complete public speaking disaster area that he can be. He got the main points over well enough I thought.

I am genuinely sad about Bolts leaving. More than I thought I would be. It’s a completely different feeling to when Pagan, Ratten & Malthouse left.

I understand the club’s decision....but I have a nagging suspicion we’ll regret it. Time will tell.


Me too. I knew it was coming but still felt very sad watching him speak today. Such a a positive and genuine guy.

I hope he has a holiday somewhere with his family, it must have been an awfully stressful year.

I feel he is a bit of a scapegoat but also that he'd probably done what he could. On paper he should have stayed until the end of the year but I think that ending it now was the best option. If the club had come out and said they were holding off until the end of the year that would have most likely prolonged the inevitable.


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