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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 9:52 am 
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At the moment De Koning's more of an injured player than anything else. So I think another ruck is crucial in one of the upcoming drafts, especially given the uncertainty about our three senior rucks.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:05 pm 
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B: Thomas - Jones - Plowman
HB: Silvagni - Weitering - O'Brien
C: Stocker - SPS - Fisher
HF: Cunningham - C. Curnow - Walsh
F: Gibbons - McKay - Murphy
R: Phillips - Cripps - E.Curnow

INT: Dow - Marchbank - Casboult - Setterfield


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:55 pm 
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johnny wrote:
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My changes would be:

Out: Kreuzer, Newman, Simmo, McGovern

In: Phillips, Willo, Setterfield, Stocker



C.Curnow?


Oh yes, nice problem to have :-)

Replace Stocker with Charlie. Oops.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 12:58 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
johnny wrote:
The Normal One wrote:
My changes would be:

Out: Kreuzer, Newman, Simmo, McGovern

In: Phillips, Willo, Setterfield, Stocker



C.Curnow?


Oh yes, nice problem to have :-)

Replace Stocker with Charlie. Oops.


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i'm in total agreeance with all four.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:09 pm 
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This is the last of a block of five games that I think we were a real chance in , starting with Sydney . 5 wins -unrealistic , 4 wins -very very happy , 3 wins - happy , 2 wins - ok , 1 win - disappointed , thankfully we have won at least one because nil wins would have been a disaster for the club . We really must win this week because the next block of five is not looking real good . colonwood,gws, druggies, saints, Brisbane , once again we must win this week !!!!


Don’t think saints or Brisbane are any less beatable than port away or hawthorn in Tasmania


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 1:39 pm 
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Personally I believe the backline is functioning so well, they'll want to bring in a VFL defender who is playing under the same defensive system. If not 2.



100%. Schumacher for newman ... i'd start with walsh in the simmo role and bring stocker off the bench to chop walsh out in the middle with.


i still wish we'd upgraded phillips this offseason gone. we've never been able to rely on kruezer his entire career to stay fit for long.


Walsh has done all of his training to date with the mids. Why would you put him into defence now the 6,6,6 exists. There is no 'Simmo role" any more. It's every defender playing on a forward. The days of loose defenders are gone.
The backs play to a system. Walsh would have little idea of what it is. Plus if you push him back and he gets a flogging, what does that do to his confidence. You don't move players who are performing well.
We have backs who the assistant coaches have said are not lacking physical conditioning. I know some posters are saying they're not ready. According to Dale Amos, Willo is physically ready. I suspect he'd know better than anyone here.
If he's ready, play him and leave Walsh where he is thriving.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Personally I believe the backline is functioning so well, they'll want to bring in a VFL defender who is playing under the same defensive system. If not 2.



100%. Schumacher for newman ... i'd start with walsh in the simmo role and bring stocker off the bench to chop walsh out in the middle with.


i still wish we'd upgraded phillips this offseason gone. we've never been able to rely on kruezer his entire career to stay fit for long.


Walsh has done all of his training to date with the mids. Why would you put him into defence now the 6,6,6 exists. There is no 'Simmo role" any more. It's every defender playing on a forward. The days of loose defenders are gone.
The backs play to a system. Walsh would have little idea of what it is. Plus if you push him back and he gets a flogging, what does that do to his confidence. You don't move players who are performing well.
We have backs who the assistant coaches have said are not lacking physical conditioning. I know some posters are saying they're not ready. According to Dale Amos, Willo is physically ready. I suspect he'd know better than anyone here.
If he's ready, play him and leave Walsh where he is thriving.


it was pretty hard to tell at the ground, but i'm positive walsh started the richmond and port games on the back flank??

that tells me he spent a fair chunk of his 1st offseason with the backs? and simmo is rarely on a man. he drifts around the park, gets up on the wings and works the zone across half back.

plus stocker chopping walsh out and walsh moves to the middle, then comes back when stocker needs a break. walsh is covering 16kms a game ... the kid doesn't rest, so i'm sure where ever he plays he'll kill it.


i'd just love to see stocker out there in that quarterback role out of defence. and, if willo is fit he's a ready-made replacement for Newman.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:24 pm 
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Plowman very lucky the other defenders are out injured. VERY limited defender.

I hope our mids have a good day and our new look back six aren't bombarded.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 2:50 pm 
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Kreuz has got up for it will be named on extended bench. Stocker is debuting.


We'll see I guess.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 3:51 pm 
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If Kruezer is actually fit to play, it will make a v big difference.
And I'm super keen to see Stocker play.

There are three things which can enhance or diminish the value of the Stocker trade, in this order:
1) Stocker turns out to be a gun! This is the most important thing.
2) Adelaide wins less than expected. So far they're delivering for us on this and with it a higher draft pick than expected
3) We win more games than expected. So far, we're not delivering on this, potentially gifting Adelaide a better pick than we had in mind at the time of the trade.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:05 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
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StandByyourMan wrote:
Kreuz has got up for it will be named on extended bench. Stocker is debuting.


We'll see I guess.

thus. :thumbsup:
I dare not hope.

I'm gonna guess
Philips Setters Willo.
possibly Kennedy ins.

would also love to see Stocker.

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:22 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
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StandByyourMan wrote:
Kreuz has got up for it will be named on extended bench. Stocker is debuting.


We'll see I guess.

Kreuzer is vital to our chances this weekend, Goldstein would slaughter us around the ground without him but I hope we're not gonna cripple him. It's a long season and he's not exactly the most durable player on the list.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 4:22 pm 
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If the doggies lose (they play Richmond so this is likely) and we win, we'll go up to 14th on percentage.

Brisbane will likely beat Sydney at home
Hawk$ will likely beat Demons

Adelaide's percentage is very high. If they beat Freo at the Adelaide Oval they'll be right up there in the mix for top 4-6 (how high depending on some other results)

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I'm tipping Adelaide get their shit together and finish top 4

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 5:04 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Personally I believe the backline is functioning so well, they'll want to bring in a VFL defender who is playing under the same defensive system. If not 2.



100%. Schumacher for newman ... i'd start with walsh in the simmo role and bring stocker off the bench to chop walsh out in the middle with.


i still wish we'd upgraded phillips this offseason gone. we've never been able to rely on kruezer his entire career to stay fit for long.


Walsh has done all of his training to date with the mids. Why would you put him into defence now the 6,6,6 exists. There is no 'Simmo role" any more. It's every defender playing on a forward. The days of loose defenders are gone.
The backs play to a system. Walsh would have little idea of what it is. Plus if you push him back and he gets a flogging, what does that do to his confidence. You don't move players who are performing well.
We have backs who the assistant coaches have said are not lacking physical conditioning. I know some posters are saying they're not ready. According to Dale Amos, Willo is physically ready. I suspect he'd know better than anyone here.
If he's ready, play him and leave Walsh where he is thriving.


it was pretty hard to tell at the ground, but i'm positive walsh started the richmond and port games on the back flank??



He's played wing, midfield or very occasionally half forward.

As for North, I think it's about 5 years since we beat these pricks. And from memory, most games have been decent blowouts.

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Blue Vain wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Personally I believe the backline is functioning so well, they'll want to bring in a VFL defender who is playing under the same defensive system. If not 2.



100%. Schumacher for newman ... i'd start with walsh in the simmo role and bring stocker off the bench to chop walsh out in the middle with.


i still wish we'd upgraded phillips this offseason gone. we've never been able to rely on kruezer his entire career to stay fit for long.


Walsh has done all of his training to date with the mids. Why would you put him into defence now the 6,6,6 exists. There is no 'Simmo role" any more. It's every defender playing on a forward. The days of loose defenders are gone.
The backs play to a system. Walsh would have little idea of what it is. Plus if you push him back and he gets a flogging, what does that do to his confidence. You don't move players who are performing well.
We have backs who the assistant coaches have said are not lacking physical conditioning. I know some posters are saying they're not ready. According to Dale Amos, Willo is physically ready. I suspect he'd know better than anyone here.
If he's ready, play him and leave Walsh where he is thriving.

Willo is physically ready to play at VFL level, but last week looked to me like a player still building his match touch, confidence and conditioning after an extremely long lay off. There were some positive signs late in the game from him, but he had a ‘mare in the first half. I would play Stocker ahead of him this week. It’s not ideal, but Stocker is the ‘in form’ player in reserve who has been working our defence system.

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In: Charlie Curnow, Jarrod Garlett, Matthew Lobbe, Andrew Phillips, Angus Schumacher, Will Setterfield, Liam Stocker, Tom Williamson
Out: Matthew Kreuzer (adductor), Mitch McGovern (hamstring), Nic Newman (knee), Kade Simpson (hamstring)

New: Angus Schumacher*, Liam Stocker* (both players included on the extended bench)

Extended bench: Garlett Lobbe Phillips C Curnow Schumacher Williamson Setterfield Stocker

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:27 pm 
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Effes wrote:
In: Charlie Curnow, Jarrod Garlett, Matthew Lobbe, Andrew Phillips, Angus Schumacher, Will Setterfield, Liam Stocker, Tom Williamson
Out: Matthew Kreuzer (adductor), Mitch McGovern (hamstring), Nic Newman (knee), Kade Simpson (hamstring)

New: Angus Schumacher*, Liam Stocker* (both players included on the extended bench)

Extended bench: Garlett Lobbe Phillips C Curnow Schumacher Williamson Setterfield Stocker

So much for the rumour about Kreuzer.


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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:30 pm 
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why even mention Lobbe?

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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 6:32 pm 
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with those ins, it's like we're taking the piss....out of north.


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