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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:56 pm 
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Phillips should be available according to Russell

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:58 pm 
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Phillips should be available according to Russell


Would definitely take Phillips over Lobbe


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:25 pm 
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I'd take no lubbe over Lobbe

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:42 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
In: Cunningham, Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe, Polson


No Cunningham for at least another week according to injury update. Kreuzer & Phillips sound likely and McCov & Charlie sound possible.

I think the club will take a conservative approach with McGov & Charlie. My revised selections-

In: Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe

Polson will need to bring fanatical pressure to our forward line to retain his spot. With Cunningham, Fasolo, Garlett, Gibbons, Lang and Pickett lacking fitness and/or form, Polson needs to grab his opportunity.

B: Simmo Jones Plowman
HB: Thomas Weitering Marchbank
C: Walsh Cripps LOB
HF: E Curnow Casboult SPS
F: Murphy McKay SOJ

R: Phillips Dow Fisher

Inter: Kreuzer, Newman, Polson, Setterfield

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:28 pm 
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I'd take no lubbe over Lobbe
:lol: needed that....

My take is that we are suffering a lot from the lack of runners... (as in messages)
Swans controlled the tempo, and the ball, thus the huge possession disparity.... We just refused to man up a bit closer... They would kick, kick, kick and when the error came, they would take off.... (classic soccer tactics)... Rookie stuff, but we weren't seeing it (or doing anything about it).
Then they were crowding the contest... And drawing us in... We were 3 goals down... And we were crowding the ball....
I also agree our bottom 5 were not effective... Lots that can be done... Not the least of which is our boys LOWERING their eyes... A few times we kicked it in top of our forwards heads... Double problem... First easy to spoil... Second, small go front and centre, but the ball if being carried over the back.. K especially with the new tactic we also seems asleep on...pushing the pack under the ball)...

Anyway, I should have settled my nerves by Sunday


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:14 pm 
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We’re already starting to cop a little bit of media heat for not winning yet, despite obvious improvement.
Lose this week though, and it’s gloves off and the footy media, who salivate at any chance to stick the boots in, will absolutely go hard at the club.

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We’re already starting to cop a little bit of media heat for not winning yet, despite obvious improvement.
Lose this week though, and it’s gloves off and the footy media, who salivate at any chance to stick the boots in, will absolutely go hard at the club.

And we deserve it.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:15 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
In: Cunningham, Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe, Polson


No Cunningham for at least another week according to injury update. Kreuzer & Phillips sound likely and McCov & Charlie sound possible.

I think the club will take a conservative approach with McGov & Charlie. My revised selections-

In: Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe

Polson will need to bring fanatical pressure to our forward line to retain his spot. With Cunningham, Fasolo, Garlett, Gibbons, Lang and Pickett lacking fitness and/or form, Polson needs to grab his opportunity.

B: Simmo Jones Plowman
HB: Thomas Weitering Marchbank
C: Walsh Cripps LOB
HF: E Curnow Casboult SPS
F: Murphy McKay SOJ

R: Phillips Dow Fisher

Inter: Kreuzer, Newman, Polson, Setterfield


Wow that is an absurdly tall side. I thought we were way too tall on the weekend and you’ve gone even taller. SOJ and McGovern are like for like. Phillips and Lobbe are like for like. But you’ve gone another ruckman for Gibbons?

Kreuzer, Phillips, Casboult and McKay in the same team.. not in a million years for me. Ideally only 2 of them but with Curnow and McGovern out I can deal with 3.... just. Add to that a very tall backline with Jones, Weiters, Marchbank, and Plowman. I really can’t see the appeal. We will be completely ran off our feet IMO. We need to win the ground ball and link up through the middle of the ground with waves of running players. Going this tall only encourages the bomb it long game plan that we all despise


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:28 am 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
We’re already starting to cop a little bit of media heat for not winning yet, despite obvious improvement.
Lose this week though, and it’s gloves off and the footy media, who salivate at any chance to stick the boots in, will absolutely go hard at the club.


Caro deflecting bc Rich are getting found now that injuries mounting

Also Juddy saying that Rich' gameplan outdated

Though Hutchy was quite bullish. We just gotta hold our nerve...even if we all (me included) lose the plot after next Sunday

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In: Kennedy Silvagni Kreuzer
Out: Polson Gibbons Lobbe

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:00 am 
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BigBlueWave wrote:
In: Kennedy Silvagni Kreuzer
Out: Polson Gibbons Lobbe


I’d go with Phillips instead of Kruezer given Kruezer’s fragility, give him a week or two in the seconds to make sure he is robust.

Otherwise looks like some good changes.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:47 pm 
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jake_h03 wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
In: Cunningham, Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe, Polson


No Cunningham for at least another week according to injury update. Kreuzer & Phillips sound likely and McCov & Charlie sound possible.

I think the club will take a conservative approach with McGov & Charlie. My revised selections-

In: Kreuzer, Phillips, SOJ
Out: McGovern (inj), Gibbons, Lobbe

Polson will need to bring fanatical pressure to our forward line to retain his spot. With Cunningham, Fasolo, Garlett, Gibbons, Lang and Pickett lacking fitness and/or form, Polson needs to grab his opportunity.

B: Simmo Jones Plowman
HB: Thomas Weitering Marchbank
C: Walsh Cripps LOB
HF: E Curnow Casboult SPS
F: Murphy McKay SOJ

R: Phillips Dow Fisher

Inter: Kreuzer, Newman, Polson, Setterfield


Wow that is an absurdly tall side. I thought we were way too tall on the weekend and you’ve gone even taller. SOJ and McGovern are like for like. Phillips and Lobbe are like for like. But you’ve gone another ruckman for Gibbons?

Kreuzer, Phillips, Casboult and McKay in the same team.. not in a million years for me. Ideally only 2 of them but with Curnow and McGovern out I can deal with 3.... just. Add to that a very tall backline with Jones, Weiters, Marchbank, and Plowman. I really can’t see the appeal. We will be completely ran off our feet IMO. We need to win the ground ball and link up through the middle of the ground with waves of running players. Going this tall only encourages the bomb it long game plan that we all despise


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I share your concern about being too tall, but I think we’ll play 2 ruckman if both Kreuzer & Phillips are available. McKay & Casboult suck as 2nd rucks and, more than ever, I think clearances are vital this season. If McGov & Charlie are unavailable, Casboult gets a game because Harry needs support and Kreuzer/Phillips are not effective as forwards. I agree it’s far from ideal to have Kreuzer, Phillips & Casboult in the same side.

Another point is that we have very few ground level runners in reserve. SOJ at least can play multiple roles and should be match fit. Kennedy may or may not be injured again. It would be handy to have Cunningham, Docherty, Lang & Pickett all fit and pushing for selection....

Until then, we desperately need at least one of Gibbons, Polson, LOB, Fasolo & Garlett to stand up. Polson had a decent game against Port but was poor last week. Gibbons hasn’t fired a shot. LOB has potential but a long way to go. Fasolo has struggled to keep up and Garlett is learning a new role.

With the list profile we currently have, injuries hurt us more than most teams. That’s not a ‘cop out’, it is the harsh reality of where we’re at following a rebuild which was unprecedented in its scope.

By my reckoning, unavailable last week - Charlie, Doc, Pickett, Cunningham, Kreuzer, Phillips, Williamson, Macreadie, Lang, LeBois + McGov (for a half). Maybe Kennedy too.

Don’t underestimate what a difference it would make to a young side like ours to go a few weeks where we don’t suffer new injuries. Aside from the structural impact, and continuity loss for individual player development, our guys need a block of games playing together to build the synergy needed to win. I would love for Bolts to be able to field the team he wants for once!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:02 pm 
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Must. Win.
I am a big believer in Bolton although realistic enough to recognise that if his great work off the field does not translate into wins, he’ll need to go.
But for the moment , I can definitely see the improvement in both game plan and individuals: Our team defence is much better again after going to sh1t last year, and I can see the play on and link up that will underpin our attack as soon as our skills pick up enough to honour this fast approach.
And individually, McKay has clearly improved, as has SPS, Dow, Weitering and Setterfield and obviously Walsh great inclusions.
So I am patient and can see we are improving.

HOWEVER, I cannot take the notion that we are a step behind the Gold Coast or that it’s looking like a smashing is on the cards!
We are 2yrs ahead of the Gold Coast at least.
They are playing well but so were we in Bolton’s first year.
There is NO reason that I’ll accept for losing this week to the Gold Coast.
And more than that, we need to beat them convincingly!
And I believe we will.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:46 pm 
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Kreuzer got through the intra club OK

https://m.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04 ... vfl-hitout

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:16 pm 
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Among our most pressing needs is the small forward. If Lang is fit and Russell is suggesting he is, he can play that role. Certainly better than Gibbons at the moment.

No news on Kennedy though.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:25 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Kreuzer got through the intra club OK

https://m.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04 ... vfl-hitout


He didn’t even play a full game, just some “good minutes”. I hope we give him a full game in the seconds before we rush him back to the seniors.


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Maybe bring Lang in to a forward role, move Gibbons up to a wing and give LOB a few weeks in the 2s to rack up possessions... ?

Phillips back in for Lobbe.

Jack in for Levi. Jack can rotate forward and inside mid with Crippa.

Kennedy in to strengthen midfield

In - Phillips Silvagni Lang Kennedy Garlett
Out - Lobbe Casboult McGovern O'Brien Plowman

B. Simpson Weitering Newman
HB. Marchbank Jones Thomas
C. Gibbons Fisher Walsh
HF. Murphy McKay SPS
F. Lang Silvagni Ed

R. Phillips Cripps Dow

I. Setterfield Kennedy Garlett Polson


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Rexy wrote:
Maybe bring Lang in to a forward role, move Gibbons up to a wing and give LOB a few weeks in the 2s to rack up possessions... ?

Phillips back in for Lobbe.

Jack in for Levi. Jack can rotate forward and inside mid with Crippa.

Kennedy in to strengthen midfield

In - Phillips Silvagni Lang Kennedy Garlett
Out - Lobbe Casboult McGovern O'Brien Plowman

B. Simpson Weitering Newman
HB. Marchbank Jones Thomas
C. Gibbons Fisher Walsh
HF. Murphy McKay SPS
F. Lang Silvagni Ed

R. Phillips Cripps Dow

I. Setterfield Kennedy Garlett Polson


Like it, but how in gods name do Polson AND Gibbons survive? I’d keep O’Brien in, Polson back to the 2s


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:46 pm 
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Give O'Brien a couple of weeks at least to adjust to the tempo and play him at half back where he seemed to show the most promise last season. Tell him to RUN as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 5:52 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Give O'Brien a couple of weeks at least to adjust to the tempo and play him at half back where he seemed to show the most promise last season. Tell him to RUN as well.


Yep...same applies to Gibbons

Some on here thinks he's the only player ever to have played 2 poor games and deserved demotion.

Gibbons stays

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