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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:07 am 
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I didn't hear any booing after he injured himself.

His swan diving for frees though, is tiresome. Luckily the umps are onto him.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:09 am 
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Correct. Pretty sure the booing stopped when he stayed down...
BTW inmho, the new runner rule is costing us the most.. (or is it game day coaching??? )...
No adjustment to tactics until the breaks... Too many to mention..
Free Tigers forward of the contest
Corridor open
Being pushed under the fall of the ball
Playing on quickly
Long kick to forwards (who weren't there)

I could go on...

Also, after being impressed with clean ball handling over the pre-season, it seemed to disappear last night... Was it dewy? I was there... Seemed fine?
Ah well... Next week

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:24 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
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When the match committee sit down and select the team, I presume they look at each player and say....'What will he give us?' From that question I presume the committee each make comments about the player.

When you get to Garlett, and they want to play him in the backline..................I wonder who speaks first and I wonder what they say he will bring to the team.

I just wonder. :?: :?: :?: :?:

Carltons biggest problem for many years now, aside from actual lack of talent, is that we simply have very few players who actually B-Line ball in a ferocious, 'Get out my way' manner.

Every Richmond player B-lines the footy as if his life depends on it. They run hard and straight and they mow down whomever is in their way.

How many do we have that play in that fashion? No-where near enough to get the job done.

And after that we then have the old........1, 2, 3 possession, turnover. 1,2,3 possession, turnover. And tonight those 1,2, 3 possessions gained 30 metres sideways. Or when that didn't work we went out of the backline......1, 2. Hold, Hold, Hold, Hold, Hold. Kick long to a contest, outnumbered at the fall, turnover.

We are playing one of the best defenses in the game and each time from our HB line, we gave them 30 secs to set up properly, before we tried to hit a pinpoint pass over 30 metres, then turned it over to the swarm of gut running Tigers.

I'm hoping Blue Vain can explain our game plan to me with a crayon drawing because I am at a loss. I do get that if we didn't keep turning the ball over we might actually have some form of game plan so I guess Bolton has an out there, of sorts.

For mine I liked Walsh, Cuningham, McKay (not in the ruck) Setterfield and Fisher.

Regards Cazzesman
I agree with the B-line statement.
We have maybe half a dozen who run straight lines
Kruez Jones Cripps Thomas Simpson and to a certain extent JSOS.
Haven't seen enough of McGovern yet.
But the rest shirk
The midfield just gets rag dolled at the moment.
Fisher Dow SPS Cunningham and Murphy just brushed aside.
Need some size in the middle

And if Bolton thinks that on this planet Garlett can hold his place on the HB it shows he doesn't have a clue

So who would you have played on Rioli?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:25 am 
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on Rance.

whilst i dont wish an injury on any player, and having had 3 knee operations he is in for a shit for months, i dislike Rance immensely.

i think he is nothing but a cheat. He doesnt defend, he impedes the player, using illegal tactics and gets away with it more times than not. Ive never understood why he is considered as good as he is. I rate Vlaustin (SP? the ginger nut who is hard as) as a far better player. Hard, honest and goes at it with everything. Id take him over Rance everyday of the week.

i actually think we was probably responsible for 4 ot 5 of our goals :-) when he went down, our avenue to goal dried up!!

additional to that.

2nd and 3rd quarters where fun. footy hasnt been fun for sometime.

Im super impressed by Newman, Setterfield and Walsh. Throught Richie showed abit too. SPS is getting better, which is all i can ask, but he does need to be in the game for longer. Cripps, well he is just Cripps and a freak. Fisher and Dow where good too i thought.

Seriously Setterfield, Walsh, Dow, Fisher, Cripps, SPS ... thats a serious midfield in a few years. Its only going to get stronger.

Newman with Docherty and Weitering with Marchbank is a very good defence too.

Curnow (had a stinker) McKay and Mcgovern looks handy. Cunningham and Picket running through the forward 50 looks promising too.

Actually feels like we have the start of a seriously good side on our hands. Now its patience, and give them every opportunity to improve and long gone with be the dark days that we have endured for the last decade.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:33 am 
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Does anyone else think Richmond had a tactic where Reiwoldt would pretend to go up for a mark but really just aim to take out the Carlton defender(s) and effectively shepherding for Lynch?
I thought I saw him do this on a number of occasions.
And he was pinged by the umps a couple of times.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 9:56 am 
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yes. collingwood masterminded this.

lynch first goal was a disgrace, completly took Jones out of the contest .. with a completly unrealistic attempt at marking ...


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:12 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
on Rance.

whilst i dont wish an injury on any player, and having had 3 knee operations he is in for a shit for months, i dislike Rance immensely.

i think he is nothing but a cheat. He doesnt defend, he impedes the player, using illegal tactics and gets away with it more times than not. Ive never understood why he is considered as good as he is. I rate Vlaustin (SP? the ginger nut who is hard as) as a far better player. Hard, honest and goes at it with everything. Id take him over Rance everyday of the week.

i actually think we was probably responsible for 4 ot 5 of our goals :-) when he went down, our avenue to goal dried up!!.




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:18 am 
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Obviously not so much from kick ins, but there was some aggressive ball movement after quarter time (even if it didn't always come off). Liked it.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:21 am 
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Thought it was a real shame BT couldn't squeeze a few more "percentage gags" into the commentary...he normally adds so much to the call.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
yes. collingwood masterminded this.

lynch first goal was a disgrace, completly took Jones out of the contest .. with a completly unrealistic attempt at marking ...


Closely followed up by Newman tackling a player running into an open goal. No holding the ball decision. Goal.
Than the 50m penalty against Daisy. Goal.
We didnt loose because of the umpires but they certainly didnt help our young side settle. The first 15 minutes had some ridiculous umpiring.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:36 am 
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Am I right in thinking that Cunningham has about 17 touches to half-time but ended up with 22 for the match?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:44 am 
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yes Riewoldt was deliberately trying to impede/ take Jones out Jones all night and only time he had eyes on the ball was the mark he took and that Newman tackle - everyone except for the green maggot thought it was holding the ball :banghead:


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:54 am 
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ScottSaunders2 wrote:
yes. collingwood masterminded this.

lynch first goal was a disgrace, completly took Jones out of the contest .. with a completly unrealistic attempt at marking ...

This.
And what you said in review too. :thumbsup:
Also did not hear any booing when Rance went down
Did notice cheersquad start up a chant which seemed a bit off in light of incident but it did fade out quickly when Rance stayed down.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:00 am 
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Well...

didn't see Richmond kick 100 points...!


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out...sore hand today...!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:07 am 
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Reiwoldt has been taking Jones out of the contest illegally for a few years now.

Before Lynch became their tall forward, Reiwoldt would get in front of Jones and stop his run and jump at the football without actually going up himself. Happened on too many occasions to count at last years season opener, and he got away with it every single time.

Now he's going way to early to deliberately take Jones out, so Lynch can launch at it.

Surely there are mechanisms in place whereby our club can point this out to umpires so they are aware of the tactic.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:53 am 
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Not much point getting over analytical about game plans or too critical of players after one game. We were outclssed but we showed some fight, spirit and desire. That's all we can ask of a young team. Go Blues!! :clap:

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:56 am 
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79Vintage wrote:
Not much point getting over analytical about game plans or too critical of players after one game. We were outclssed but we showed some fight, spirit and desire. That's all we can ask of a young team. Go Blues!! :clap:


I would say mainly outrun.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:00 pm 
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DesEnglish wrote:
Gibbons just played his first AFL game, as a forward, in Carlton’s forward line.

I reckon we can cut him a little slack


That is fair enough, although equally one could argue we should never accept mediocrity.
And how can Carlton's (historically poor) forwardline improve if we don't add to it better players - is Gibbons going to be a marked improvement?
Not having a go at you mate, just creating productive conversation and showing the other side to the coin. It is quite possible within himself, and within the inner circle of the other coaches, Bolton might be thinking "well that forwardline wasn't very good".


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:01 pm 
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17th Premiership wrote:
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Just got home from the game:
Newman can play... will be very handy this year, and should partner up well with Doc when he's back.
C Curnow had an absolute stinker.
Walsh looked a bit out of sorts early but to his credit he worked his way into it and showed some good glimpses. Good size and will be very, very good!
I'm concerned about Paddy Dow ... looked a few steps behind on a number of occasions and kicking let him down (again)
SPS unsighted... needs to run more
Did Garlett even play?
Fisher's a little terrier - brought down Martin a few times which is hard to do
Setterfield will be excellent - he's a good size!
Bit quieter from Cunningham than had hoped

Congratulations to Murph, but I think he's cooked.

Remember: Richmond is a top 4 side, and just picked up Lynch! We had a lot of kids out there and have the makings of a very, very good side... develop them well and anything can happen.



Cunners no 1 ranked player on the ground at HT, excellent in the 2nd qtr.

Harsh on SPS imo too.


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I thought SPS worked hard and did some v good things. And IMO, Dow has shown definite improvement.
I was most impressed with big Harry as I see him as central to our future prospects - and I am becoming more comfortable that he will be the guy we hoped and need.
Cunners is proving me wrong - I didn’t think he could make it.
And I really loved the way we tried to keep the ball moving forward. Mostly.

If I had to narrow it down to one thing, I think Richmond ran much harder and with more intensity ball and without it. Esp what I’d call the first 5m and the last 5m of a chase or out of/towards a contest.


Maybe I am wrong.
I honestly hardly noticed SPS in the first half. To the point I thought he was injured early and off the ground. Or tagging.
Maybe I need to go to Specsavers.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:08 pm 
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A few other points out of last night.

Andrew Russell will earn every cent, looks like we're coming from miles back fitness wise. Barely raised a gallop in the last term.

As for the new rules:

Don't like the kick-in rule. Too easy for teams to release the pressure valve and doesn't reward teams good at locking it in or who are making repeat entries.
6-6-6 is fantastic on first look at it. Really allows the midfields to battle it out for possession without all the extras clogging it up.

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