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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:21 pm 
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So....in the end we got the 2 state league guys

Thanks for the compo AFL

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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We had our eyes on these two throughout the draft.... we just can't believe they slipped through to us at pick 8392

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Essendon*'s pick at 8397 is still the best player in the draft

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Essendon**'s pick aod 9604 is still the best player in the draft


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SOS already on the phone with the AFL to ask if we can have another one?

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SOS already on the phone with the AFL to ask if we can have another one?


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Williamstown VFL star Michael Gibbons firming to earn a spot on Carlton’s list for 2019
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Overlooked VFL star Michael Gibbons is firming to earn a spot on Carlton’s list for next season after impressing at Blues training over the past two weeks.

The 23-year-old, who won a second VFL J.J Liston Trophy while playing for Williamstown this year, was invited to train with Carlton after missing selection in the national and rookie drafts.

The Blues have the option to add Gibbons to their list as part of the pre-season supplemental selection period, with a deadline of March 15.

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While a final decision is yet to be made, the Sunday Herald Sun understands Williamstown is planning to be without Gibbons next year, confident the athletic midfielder and forward will be listed by Carlton.
Michael Gibbons takes a mark while playing for Williamstown this year. Picture: Mike Owen/Getty Images

Blues forward Harry McKay said this week Gibbons had impressed on the training track and deserved an opportunity.

“He’s been awesome,” McKay said.

“He obviously has a lot of experience at VFL level and he’s a really good guy and so far in just some match simulation he’s done some really good things. So hopefully we can stick with him and pick him up.”

Gibbons has been named in the past three VFL teams of the year and averaged 28 disposals and seven clearances a game this year.

He would be the fourth player plucked from Williamstown by AFL clubs this year, with Ben Cavarra (Western Bulldogs), Lachlan Schultz (Fremantle) and Brett Bewley (Fremantle) all finding new homes in the national draft.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Seems to be too many injury prone players on our list.

Docherty and Pickett both already gone for the year.
Fingers crossed Setterfield can finally get his body right after being injured for most of the last 4 years (2 years AFL - 2 years junior). Ditto Caleb Marchbank who has been injured for most of the last 5 years (4 years AFL - final year junior). McGovern for much of the previous two years. Harry McKay doesn't strike me as being durable either.

Lets hope Andrew Russell can somehow improve this situation.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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We used to have a KPI of if you couldn’t kick, then put them on the list but we’ve now changed that to, if they’re made of glass, put them on the list.

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Charlie Curnow and Mitch McGovern are keys to Carlton rising up AFL ladder in 2019
DECEMBER 29, 2018
Carlton has spent the past five seasons on the bottom rungs of the AFL ladder, but is the worm starting to turn?

Some big off-season acquisitions, more quality young talent, some injury luck and another season with Brendon Bolton’s game plan burned into players’ minds should see enjoy a more fruitful 2019.

BUDDY BLAST: SWANS CHIEF SLAMS TRADE CRITICS

RISING SUNS? WHY GOLD COAST SHOULDN’T BE SO GLUM

EIGHT REASONS WHY CARLTON CAN GET EXCITED
McLOVIN McGOVERN

Carlton couldn’t have been much happier after securing Adelaide’s Mitch McGovern during the trade period. They didn’t have to give up much — essentially two picks in the 20s — but landed a player who could prove a steal. Yes, McGovern has only shown glimpses of what he is capable of during a 48-game AFL career to date. Two injury-interrupted seasons haven’t helped, and at 24 years old he needs to start finding consistency. But Carlton clearly thinks the swingman — who kicked 20 goals from 13 games in 2017 — can do that and McGovern’s addition helps fill the club’s void of players in the 23-to-27-year-old age bracket.


Mitch McGovern’s pre-season hit a snag with a back injury. Pic: Michael Klein
OTHER ACQUISITIONS

They won’t be plastered over the membership posters, but Carlton’s other trade and free agency pick-ups alongside McGovern could prove handy. Nic Newman, secured from Sydney, is a capable rebounding defender who averaged 17.5 disposals and 5.5 marks in his 11 games last season. He will also start next season aged 26, providing a more experienced head in the back half than most the Blues. Will Setterfield, from Greater Western Sydney, was Pick 5 in the 2016 National Draft so clearly has talent to burn if he can get his body right after two injury-interrupted seasons. Then there is former Collingwood livewire Alex Fasolo, who fell out of favour at the Magpies but does know how to find the goals. In fact, he kicked 29 majors in 19 AFL games in 2017. Not too shabby at all.

SUNNY SKIES

When you finish last on the ladder, there are not really any games you can pencil in as wins for the following year. However, Carlton would be thanking its lucky stars its fixture for 2019 sees it playing Gold Coast twice. The Suns were one of just two teams, along with Essendon*, that the Blues beat in 2018. And Stewart Dew’s side has only been further depleted since, losing co-captains Tom Lynch and Steven May among a host of other senior players. The Blues other double-up opponents are a mixed bag with St Kilda, Western Bulldogs, Sydney and Richmond.


Patrick Cripps will lead the Blues in 2019 with co-captain Sam Docherty sidelined again. Pic: AAP
ONLY WAY IS UP

They say sometimes taking a step back can move you forward. The Blues will be hoping that is the case for them in 2019. The side won six games in 2017 before slipping to just two in 2018 but now, coming from last on the ladder, the only way is up. Entering his fourth year in the hot seat, coach Brendon Bolton has few excuses left to roll out having completed a significant turnover of the playing list since his arrival which has delivered a mix of footballers he thinks he can work with. Now is the time to deliver.

MORE KREUZ

After Sam Docherty’s injury during pre-season and Bryce Gibbs’ deflection to Adelaide, the last thing Carlton could afford last year was for another experienced senior player to miss a large chunk of the year, which ruckman Matthew Kreuzer did. Ankle and concussion issues and later an elevated heart rate complaint restricted Kreuzer to just 12 games in 2018. The limited campaign came after the big man had played 21 games in 2017, averaging 15.3 disposals and 31.7 hit outs to finish third in the club’s best-and-fairest. If he can stay on the park in 2019 and return to that sort of form it will provide a big boost for the Blues’ midfield.


Charlie Curnow’s emergence has Blues fans excited. Pic: Getty Images
CURNOW INFERNO

Much of the excitement around Carlton’s future revolves around the emergence of key forward Charlie Curnow. While he does not turn 22 until February and is just 47 games into his AFL career, Curnow has already been compared to a young Nick Riewoldt or Jonathan Brown and his rise to stardom is expected to only accelerate. The 194cm tall went from kicking 20 goals from 21 games in 2017 to booting 34 majors from 20 games in 2018 and has shown enough to suggest he is capable of boosting that figure to 50 goals in 2019.

ANOTHER No. 1

There is always interest aplenty in how the No. 1 draft pick performs in their debut season and Sam Walsh carries that baton this year. The midfield jet produced a dazzling under-18 season last year, averaging 32 disposals for Geelong Falcons in the TAC Cup and 29 touches in the national under-18 carnival. The 18-year-old made a big impression at pre-season training from his very first week and veteran Falcons talent manager Michael Turner has said Walsh could be the best player to come through his program, which has produced seven AFL captains.

WILLIAMSON’S RISE

Football can be cruel sometimes, evidenced by Blues co-captain Sam Docherty suffering another ACL injury just weeks into pre-season training which will rule him out of most, if not all, of the 2019 season. However, with heartbreak comes opportunity for others. Tom Williamson shapes as one player who might grasp that opportunity and make the rebounding intercept defender role his own. Highly rated internally, the 189cm Williamson played 15 games on debut last season, averaging 12.1 disposals and 3.4 marks. While still just 20 year’s old, the No. 61 draft pick from 2016 draft is certainly an exciting prospect.


Carlton coach Brendon Bolton with No.1 draft pick Sam Walsh. Pic: Michael Klein
TAB ODDS

Premiership: $251

Top-8: $9

Most losses: $4.50

TRAJECTORY

2014: 13th (7-1-14)

2015: 18th (4-18)

2016: 14th (7-15)

2017: 16th (6-16)

2018: 18th (2-20)

YOUNG BLUES

The Blues have got younger and younger under coach Brendon Bolton and are now ranked as the third-youngest list. Carlton also has the equal-most players who have played under 50 matches.

Source: CHAMPION DATA

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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Herald Sun

Charlie Curnow and Mitch McGovern are keys to Carlton rising up AFL ladder in 2019
DECEMBER 29, 2018
Carlton has spent the past five seasons on the bottom rungs of the AFL ladder, but is the worm starting to turn?

Some big off-season acquisitions, more quality young talent, some injury luck and another season with Brendon Bolton’s game plan burned into players’ minds should see enjoy a more fruitful 2019.

BUDDY BLAST: SWANS CHIEF SLAMS TRADE CRITICS

RISING SUNS? WHY GOLD COAST SHOULDN’T BE SO GLUM

EIGHT REASONS WHY CARLTON CAN GET EXCITED
McLOVIN McGOVERN

Carlton couldn’t have been much happier after securing Adelaide’s Mitch McGovern during the trade period. They didn’t have to give up much — essentially two picks in the 20s — but landed a player who could prove a steal. Yes, McGovern has only shown glimpses of what he is capable of during a 48-game AFL career to date. Two injury-interrupted seasons haven’t helped, and at 24 years old he needs to start finding consistency. But Carlton clearly thinks the swingman — who kicked 20 goals from 13 games in 2017 — can do that and McGovern’s addition helps fill the club’s void of players in the 23-to-27-

Source: CHAMPION DATA



It wasn’t just two picks in the twenties, it was McAdam as well, but let’s not dwell on the negative as who know what type of responses these will trigger.

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Bryce Gibbs 'deflection' to Adeaide...

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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AGRO wrote:
windy wrote:
A few days old now, but some of you may have missed -

Herald Sun

Charlie Curnow and Mitch McGovern are keys to Carlton rising up AFL ladder in 2019
DECEMBER 29, 2018
Carlton has spent the past five seasons on the bottom rungs of the AFL ladder, but is the worm starting to turn?

Some big off-season acquisitions, more quality young talent, some injury luck and another season with Brendon Bolton’s game plan burned into players’ minds should see enjoy a more fruitful 2019.

BUDDY BLAST: SWANS CHIEF SLAMS TRADE CRITICS

RISING SUNS? WHY GOLD COAST SHOULDN’T BE SO GLUM

EIGHT REASONS WHY CARLTON CAN GET EXCITED
McLOVIN McGOVERN

Carlton couldn’t have been much happier after securing Adelaide’s Mitch McGovern during the trade period. They didn’t have to give up much — essentially two picks in the 20s — but landed a player who could prove a steal. Yes, McGovern has only shown glimpses of what he is capable of during a 48-game AFL career to date. Two injury-interrupted seasons haven’t helped, and at 24 years old he needs to start finding consistency. But Carlton clearly thinks the swingman — who kicked 20 goals from 13 games in 2017 — can do that and McGovern’s addition helps fill the club’s void of players in the 23-to-27-

Source: CHAMPION DATA



It wasn’t just two picks in the twenties, it was McAdam as well, but let’s not dwell on the negative as who know what type of responses these will trigger.

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I think they’re implying that the McAdam to Crows and 2019 third round pick to Carlton are about square, hence it essentially being 2 picks in the 20s.

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Tomas Bugg steps away from AFL
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Bugg announces retirement
Tomas Bugg speaks through his decision to retire from AFL football, effective immediately.
CARLTON Football Club can confirm Tomas Bugg has made the decision to retire from AFL football.

Bugg informed his teammates today that he has had growing interests outside the game that have become more of a priority than his desire to play AFL football.

The 25-year-old said the decision to walk away from the game was difficult given the support he had received since joining the Club.

“My life away from football has changed in a very short period of time which has been the reason behind this tough decision,” Bugg said.


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“The players and staff at Carlton have been so welcoming and supportive to me, I cannot thank them enough. Everyone is working incredibly hard to take the Club back to where it needs to be, you see that every day when you walk through the door.”

Head of Football Brad Lloyd said that Bugg’s decision has allowed the Club to implement the new AFL rules to full effect.

“While we are comfortable with Tom’s decision and wish him well for the future, our club will continue to move forward and be unwavering in our determination to bring success to the Carlton Football Club,” Lloyd said.

“The new AFL rules are perfect for situations such as this. We now have an opportunity to add a player to our group who will be a valuable contributor to our football club.”

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2019
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So, with Bugg retiring, how many spots do we have on the list?

1 - Bugg.
2 - Docherty injury replacement.
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So, with Bugg retiring, how many spots do we have on the list?

1 - Bugg.
2 - Docherty injury replacement.
??
Had one spot to start with... So I make it three.
When is the cut off for new players on the list.... Wonder if Bugg was encouraged to make his decision sooner rather than later? Seems very odd... Do almost all of the pre-season then retire... But you never know what has come up...

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I thought we already had two spots pre Bugg retiring so we can now list 3 players. Happy to be corrected. Interesting to see where the third player comes from, you’d presume Gibbons and Cottrell would be likely to be listed now. Another small forward would be handy.


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Better ask Adelaide what flavour yoghurt they want our first round draft picked dipped in.



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So, Byrne quits
Doc does his knee
McGovern does his back
Pickett f*cks his knee.
Fasolo breaks his arm
Bugg quits

Kreuzer has "minor" knee surgery, Willo and Marchbank running laps...

And it's the 1st of February.

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