jim wrote:
Wojee wrote:
Braithy wrote:
you just cannot gloss over this, imo.
gold coast and gws both had 3 and 4 times this many wins in their inaugural seasons.
Essendon****, with half a list suspended for taking drugs, and had to use top up players from all kinds of leagues around the country – like the NT, and still managed three wins.
GWS:
2012 - 2 wins
2013 - 1 win
GC:
2011 - 3 wins
2012 - 3 wins
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are we really that much worse than those three teams?
I think injuries have seen us a couple of wins behind what I would've expected, so I see us as being on par with those three teams.
My comparison is Melbourne.
We are getting too easily sucked in by the word "rebuild" and not looking at what is actually happening on-field. People think it's just going all happen and are comfortable with it. We are actually supposed to get better. Last year 6 wins as well as leading 7 times in last qtrs you could easily expect 8-9 wins. After all when Melbourne rebuilt again under Neeld they had 2 wins. They went from that to 4 to 7 to 10 wins in the 3 years under Paul Roos. We've gone 7, 6 and 1. I know we've have had plenty of injuries, which means a few less wins, but no way should we have been on the threshold of a winless season. We've won 2 games in the last 26. That's more than simply injuries. That is garbage pure and simple. Only got to look on-field to see things aren't exactly right.
I actually think you are 100% incorrect in what you are saying because you are only looking at the results in a linear way.
We should have more wins than last year except for these facts:
1. We traded out an A grade midfielder in an already shallow midfield.
2. Our key defender/play maker was out before the season.
3. Our defence has been decimated my injuries and inconsistent personnel for any game structure or cohesion (this is huge).
4. Our shallow midfield has had Murphy out for most of the season and injuries to Kennedy, Kruezer, Phillips and co. And has been filled by 1st and 2nd year players and depth players.
And if you underestimate the damage injuries can do to a team, especially to the midfield and the effect on winning games, then you only have to look as far as Adelaide.
1. End of Round 17 2017 Adelaide had won 13 games
2. End of Round 17 2018 Adelaide has won 8 games
To me that is a 5 game differential and we are currently 4 games off where we were this time last year when we only had 5 wins.
This is not being sucked into the word "rebuild" this is a solid hard fact of injuries and us playing kids and players that were either meant to be VFL/depth players.
So if you think we should be different to the team that made the Grand final last year and were minor premiers, please enlighten me.