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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:11 pm 
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Sack the coach, struggle for another couple of seasons, sack his replacement. Rinse and repeat.

Appears this is our lot as Carlton supporters.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:13 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
sakc Barker and hire Gary Ayres


If they do that, I'll never buy a membership again.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:18 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Rexy wrote:
sakc Barker and hire Gary Ayres


If they do that, I'll never buy a membership again.


we need some simplicity in what we're doing

he'll get your Fisher's, your SPS's, your LOB's , etc, playing a less complicated strategy


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:20 pm 
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Beat me to it

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:23 pm 
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So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:24 pm 
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WOW wrote:
So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?



Strike that reverse it.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:29 pm 
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Worst performance for the year.
If they'd been in Melbourne, they'd have been booed off again.
We are officially ten goals worse than the second last team.
And people think Brisbane should get a PP as well as GCS.

The only positives I can draw from the game are that Curnow and Cripps weren't injured.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:30 pm 
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WOW wrote:
So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


No issue with SOS. Drafting has been ok. You can only bring good players to the club, it's up to the coach and his staff to develop them properly.

Bet if all those draft picks went to Sydney they'd near all turn out good players knowing exactly what their role is.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:31 pm 
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I'll continue to get a membership until the day I die however I'm almost done watching them play. For me it's like an annual donation to the Club which I will continue to do. Watching Carlton is bad for your health. We are the worst run club in every aspect.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:34 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
Sack the coach, struggle for another couple of seasons, sack his replacement. Rinse and repeat.

Appears this is our lot as Carlton supporters.


Got any better ideas? We're going to win one game this year. We are poorly drilled, poorly skilled, no structure, poor game plan, team always poorly selected and the players have no idea what they are doing out there. We've drafted ok the last few years but you can only get good players to the club. Coach does the rest.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:37 pm 
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It’s not Bolton fault.

The committee who selected Bolton are to blame.

He won them over with comparing how bad our club is to how good Hawthorn

We aren’t Hawthorn. We don’t wanna be Hawthorn.

This club lacks vision. It starts from the top. We have dumb people making poor decisions.

The problem with Carlton is we haven’t had smart football operators making the right decisions for the future.

SOS has absolutely butchered this list rebuild. Other than a coupl of top end picks the rest have shown nothing, to many tall tall and same sames.

The good recruiters can pick the eyes out of the draft and he hasn’t.

Cuningham average
Polson average
Williamson overrated
SPS is average
Kerr is no good
Lebois average
Macreadie useless
Glass Mackascer useless

For this club to rise, he needed to have found at least 3 decent players from that list and none are looking to be any good.

Game over


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:48 pm 
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trublu wrote:
It’s not Bolton fault.

The committee who selected Bolton are to blame.

He won them over with comparing how bad our club is to how good Hawthorn

We aren’t Hawthorn. We don’t wanna be Hawthorn.

This club lacks vision. It starts from the top. We have dumb people making poor decisions.

The problem with Carlton is we haven’t had smart football operators making the right decisions for the future.

SOS has absolutely butchered this list rebuild. Other than a coupl of top end picks the rest have shown nothing, to many tall tall and same sames.

The good recruiters can pick the eyes out of the draft and he hasn’t.

Cuningham average
Polson average
Williamson overrated
SPS is average
Kerr is no good
Lebois average
Macreadie useless
Glass Mackascer useless

For this club to rise, he needed to have found at least 3 decent players from that list and none are looking to be any good.

Game over


it's is coaching. Williamson overrated? He played well last year and hasn't played this year. You're kidding yourself. How woud you know. Kerr is 19 and has shown quite a bit. Another silly comment. We have to ask why SPS is struggling after a good first year, same with Weitering. Like to see more of Macreadie but we don't see him so we can't judge. Cunningham I'd like to see more of. Been ok but that's it at best. Dow good, O'Brien shows something, and I like the look of De Koning in the VFL. McKay's averaging 2 goals a game, Curnow an absolute star, Fisher good. Done alot better than in the past. They'd be a few coaches happy with those if they had them and bet they'd end up much better players too. As I said before, bet a side like the Wwans would make good players of all of them.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:20 pm 
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WOW wrote:
So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


How are we getting Gawn?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:29 pm 
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The Normal One wrote:
WOW wrote:
So who thinks Bolton will be sacked in the next 12 months?

Gawn if no improvement next year

Silvagni to follow?


How are we getting Gawn?


Captain-Coach.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:43 pm 
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disappointing post game, more excuses. Pumping Brisbane up was a little Malthouse like.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:48 pm 
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I don't even bother any more.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:52 pm 
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The question I have to ask myself is how bad is this draft talent going to get after another preseason under Bolton and co

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"We lost to a very very good football side"

- Mick Malthouse, circa 2015.

This club is [REDACTED].

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:02 pm 
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he put a lot of emphasis on injury, which is true

he's clearly not about to bag them and risk losing the group

so there's not much more you'd expect him to say


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:25 pm 
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Cuningham average
Polson average
Williamson overrated
SPS is average
Kerr is no good
Lebois average
Macreadie useless
Glass Mackascer useless

Now I shall try to hold the temper (flower always make it hard) but

Lebois/Glass Macasker are rookies so @#$%&! off trying to use them as examples of bad picks by a recruiter - there is a reason they are rookies.

Williamson has been injured all year so how we can know one way or the other - its just an arsehole's opinion.

Kerr late pick 65

Macreadie - injured

Cunningham rising star so can play - can he elevate himself? That is coach/player and development not recruiter
SPS see above

Polson worries me - has pace - but sure about nous - development or pick?

so SOS may have [REDACTED] up with Polson

but compared to some posters he is a genius.

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