no no you nupties

its Bolts

its us

its not a rebuild!

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Well that explains everything.

Now I know why we recruited kids from the draft.

I guess we will be delisting kids and replacing them with younger kids every year.

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What part of this statement are posters struggling with.
" We got ourselves into this Mess"
"We will get ourselves out of it"

The CEO has come out and told everyone that the club is a mess.

There is no reading between the lines it is a direct statement.

The results week by week reflect we are in a Mess

The club is tracking downward


We are in a MESS

Do you get it

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Yellow, (which the CEO did say), does not necessarily imply Red, (which I don't think anyone at the club is saying).

but we are not rebuilding
its just that we are in a mess and are planning to stay there.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Every team rebuilds their list every year.
Most have 6 to 8 changes
We use the term rebuild to justify our shitiness

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

semantics pedantics

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Don’t muddy the water SB....

One fanboy following another, no idea!!! Get a life!

If you are going to be critical
Criticise the content not the poster.
Credibility goes out the window when you attack the poster and you have lost the argument.
Take a leaf out of Dannyboy book

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Please explain to me how O’Shea, Thomas, Kerridge, Lamb, Mullett, Shaw, etc....offer more to us right now then players we have traded out? I’ll be interested to hear directly from you on some real footy feedback for once!!

Why’d we ever let Duigan go ? ...

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I assume you’re comparing that mob with Waite, Betts, Jacobs, Gibbs, etc etc.

None of those you’ve listed offer more than those we’ve lost.

But those we’ve lost left for a variety of reasons. Some of it was our gross mismanagement (Betts), some was for greater opportunity (Jacobs), some was for cultural reasons (Waite) and some was for reasons beyond the club’s control (Gibbs).

The point is with the exception of maybe Tuohy we didn’t “trade them out”. They chose to leave whether for personal reasons or for reasons associated with mismanagement at the club.

Trying to compare them with the list of retreads you’ve supplied is a nonsense. Those guys were brought in to provide some temporary support for a bunch of super talented kids who will form the nexus of the next Carlton side of which we can all be proud.

The important thing to notice is we’re building a serious list of talent for the first time in over 20 years and if you can’t see that then I don’t know what to say.

Culture is obviously massively important but having guys around the club who maybe don’t really want to be there (see Marc Murphy) is far more detrimental to our long term future than worrying about a few C graders brought in to fill a demographic gap on our list for a year or two.

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Turkish Proverb

I'm bemused by the Waite conversation. We offered him 1 year, he wanted more. His last 6 years at the club, he averaged 9 games per year missed with suspension or injury.
Is there anyone here who wanted the club to offer him more than 12 months?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

The obvious answer is 'no'.
We didn't know he was going to be better after 30 than he has ever been apart from the year he was the AA CHB.
NM took a huge risk.
Waite looked after himself and good on him. He had to look after his future. The only thing I am dirty on is that he hung around on good money and took all the support through his injuries and all the blind eyes to his stupidity and then gave nothing back. He was like Fev only less naughty because it was on-field so he was allowed to get away with it.
BUT
Had he stayed, he'd be working in a news agency by now.
As long as he never comes back to the club trying to be a favourite son. He forewent that when he left for the money.

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the common theme here is just how incompetent and shit cfc are. all these players who leave bcos the club and the fans deem them to be cooked. thing is they're not cooked, cfc is.

poor injury management, league worst rehab & medical practices, players don't want to bleed for us, we lack professionalism (just ask Eddie and Waite about the contrast with how north and adelaide run their club compared to us). Carlton is amateur hour and has been for nearly two decades since the draft and CAP were put in place.

a brand new coach in bolton, bringing back a loved son in SOS and putting judd on the board doesn't change us, and it's naive to think it will change our future.

full board and ceo clean out and then install new departments in development and injury management. Judd and SOS to stay, every one else has reached their expiry date. until someone at our club is ruthless and cleans out the cupboards, nothing is changing.

ahh so its not Bolts, its not SOS its not not a rebuild its not not an attacking game plan its the Board.
The Board who have brought in Bolts, SOS and the rebuild and so those things must be bad (cos the board is bad).
And in the history of the world an organisation that was shite has never, ever turned it around.


we're doomed...


we're doomed...

I'm buying a helmet -

the sky is falling the sky is falling....

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Ratten took Carlton to Finals with a Judd led team.
Judd retires and Ratten's injury depleted Carlton team miss finals.

Mick Malthouse in media at the time suggested Carlton is a Premiership contender.
Mick's inuendo was he could take Carlton to GF where Ratten couldn't.
Mick Malthouse took Ratten's Carlton team from cusp of finals to wooden spoon.
Mick Malthouse had alienated the Football Dept, and tore the fabric of the club.
Mick Malthouse was sacked before his contract was completed, before he could do any more damage.

In Malthouse's time at Carlton, and under his watch, the experienced coach:

Lost Betts and Waite for nothing.
Kicked out Garlett and Robinson.
Yarran's health declines.
Henderson leaves.
Holman slipped through undeveloped.
Jaksch, Sumner and Gorringe recruited.

Malthouse broke a fractured club imo.

We hit the bottom of the barrel. Absolute Bottom.

What would you expect a Board to do?

Answer: Make changes to List, Recruitment, Development, Culture and Coach. Rebuild.

Carlton's rebuild is from a very low base.
Carlton's rebuild is very different to any other team.
No point comparing wooden spoon Carlton to Top 10 teams. Ridiculous thing to do.

No one wanted most of the players SOS, Footy Dept and Bolts discarded.
The best of those who were replaced by recycled players imo were Everitt, Buckley, Gowers and Bell.
All of them had question marks at the time. They wouldn't have made any difference to our current plight.

We chose to go to the Draft and trade players for high picks to gain quality players who will be around for our next tilt #17.

No one has seen such a huge turnover of players. Only wooden spooners would be the only teams to come close.
There's logical reasons why top 10 teams don't turnover their list as bottom of the ladder Carlton has.

It is a genuine rebuild, and we expected a lot of short term pain for long term gain.
I hate losing, but I can see why we had to rebuild in a big way, rather than pussy footing: clearly.

This is the last year of the 66 game rebuild. It is planned meticulously like never before (and I heard this from our ex CEO's mouth despite his bitterness being let go).

We have to see it through. Throw stones at the end of 2019 if we don't see a big improvement.

Lets stick together. Phat!

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Can't argue with any of the history or rebuild bondi, just can't understand some of the week to week decisions and game application.