Brendon Bolton - Carlton coach 2015-2019

baz_baz · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 11:44 am **Posts:** 2000

Not a know all pretender Sydney. Coached a couple of years at under 16 Ovens and Murray level and no way does that equip me to make judgements about what AFL coaching panels do. Opinions are like arseholes everybody has one. How informed are they? is the question I ask myself and in your instance it’s an obvious NAH

Rexy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:46 am **Posts:** 28227

Our attacking style in the JLTs looked good with the full list we had. Then it fell apart when injuries struck and the depth players couldn't play that style. So now we're back to parking the bus until we get our better players back in.

baz_baz · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 11:44 am **Posts:** 2000

Good comment Rexy

bondiblue · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:02 pm

Rexy wrote:

Our attacking style in the JLTs looked good with the full list we had. Then it fell apart when injuries struck and the depth players couldn't play that style. So now we're back to parking the bus until we get our better players back in.

That's how I saw it.

JLT showed a good game plan was in the making. A combo of last years defensive platform and a new attacking flair (we were desperate to see). It looked like they were all on the same page and we had goals to cheer.

Come Round 1 against the reigning Premiers and 4 hard nuts in the middle (Cripps Ed and Kennedy and Kreuzer as the 4th following up his ball) and Murphy on the outside with Dow and SPS coming off the wings, Fisher and Murphy waxing in the guts, and we were 5 zip up. Great signs. Listen to the commentators.

Kennedy goes down with an ankle and he was doing the blocking for Crippsy or winning the ball and dishing off, then a couple of bad umpiring decisions and the Tigers got 3 back. We won the quarter despite the injury to Kennedy.,,against the reigning Premiers who were in RED HOT form in the JLT.

Kreuzer gets injured early in the 2nd, and that's 2 of our hard nuts in the middle, and the engine room has holes. We don't have anyone but kids to play inside, so we robbed the forwardline of Wright and Casboult and Charlie waxed in the ruck.

The reigning Premiers grinded their way back in the game, and the Blues showed a lot of resilience in the 3rd.

What was the margin again?

It wasn't a case of the Premiers working us out and disassembling our game plan...unless you want to see it that way. The media didn't.

redback · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:17 pm **Posts:** 2651

Fast ball movement, releasing handballs, hit up players and mostly one on one forwards with space.
Defense needed to be tighter but a small adjustment required.
Interesting, you can't play like that unless you have a full squad to choose from?
Fast doesn't necessarily mean players speed, it's ball movement we we need to increase and ease congestion.

Chitty's Finger · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:56 pm

Rexy wrote:

Our attacking style in the JLTs looked good with the full list we had. Then it fell apart when injuries struck and the depth players couldn't play that style. So now we're back to parking the bus until we get our better players back in.

I do think we panicked like hell against gold coast even before injuries and our ball out of defense was shizen . That's when it fell apart. I think its injuries and natural skill level when an opposition plays good discipline. More thinking required bolts

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99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3561

Sydney Blue wrote:

If supporters were brutally honest with themselves and not hide behind the club mantra of rebuild. They would realise that the club spent 6 months working on a new game style which held up well in the JTL.
But 20 minutes into the season it all fell apart as one player went down then another and Hardwick and his coaching staff had worked it out.
It didn't stack up and was picked apart the first week.
We have spent the rest of the year trying to rectify 6 months of work done in the off season

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You missed about 10 "I believe" or "I allege" in what I believe is your rant that I allege is filled with its usually baseless hyperbole

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:43 pm

99prelim wrote:

Sydney Blue wrote:

If supporters were brutally honest with themselves and not hide behind the club mantra of rebuild. They would realise that the club spent 6 months working on a new game style which held up well in the JTL.
But 20 minutes into the season it all fell apart as one player went down then another and Hardwick and his coaching staff had worked it out.
It didn't stack up and was picked apart the first week.
We have spent the rest of the year trying to rectify 6 months of work done in the off season

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You missed about 10 "I believe" or "I allege" in what I believe is your rant that I allege is filled with its usually baseless hyperbole

Baseless hypobol
Look at the ladder
We are shizenhausen
They !@#$%& up big time
The rebuild line is just one to fool the nupties

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dannyboy · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:08 pm

so we are not rebuilding, we are deliberately planning to stay at the bottom because we love Bolts even though he can't coach...okay then.

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:26 pm

dannyboy wrote:

so we are not rebuilding, we are deliberately planning to stay at the bottom because we love Bolts even though he can't coach...okay then.

When you are running a 40 to 50 million dollar a year business and you rely on the public for basically 60 to 70 % of that income you cover up your mistakes and peddle what ever line you can to ensure that income stream doesn't dry up.
They announced the rebuild when they realised that they stuffed up with Malthouse they have been peddling that line ever since

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redback · **Joined:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:17 pm **Posts:** 2651

Sydney Blue wrote:

dannyboy wrote:

so we are not rebuilding, we are deliberately planning to stay at the bottom because we love Bolts even though he can't coach...okay then.

When you are running a 40 to 50 million dollar a year business and you rely on the public for basically 60 to 70 % of that income you cover up your mistakes and peddle what ever line you can to ensure that income stream doesn't dry up.
They announced the rebuild when they realised that they stuffed up with Malthouse they have been peddling that line ever since

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Not far off the mark sydney. We have fallen behind due to many factors over the last 20 years. Seems like we have lost a fair chunk of generational support, another on field setback could be disastrous. We need to get the support and passion of the next generation and we need it soon before it's lost, that starts with on field success.
If they keep losing and playing uninspiring footy then they will switch off. We have a good crop of youngsters and we need to utilize their skill and marketing for the club, for our on and off field wellness.

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10596

redback wrote:

Not far off the mark sydney. We have fallen behind due to many factors over the last 20 years. Seems like we have lost a fair chunk of generational support, another on field setback could be disastrous. We need to get the support and passion of the next generation and we need it soon before it's lost, that starts with on field success.
If they keep losing and playing uninspiring footy then they will switch off. We have a good crop of youngsters and we need to utilize their skill and marketing for the club, for our on and off field wellness.

Finally - someone get's it. :clap:

camel · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:20 pm

SurreyBlue wrote:

redback wrote:

Not far off the mark sydney. We have fallen behind due to many factors over the last 20 years. Seems like we have lost a fair chunk of generational support, another on field setback could be disastrous. We need to get the support and passion of the next generation and we need it soon before it's lost, that starts with on field success.
If they keep losing and playing uninspiring footy then they will switch off. We have a good crop of youngsters and we need to utilize their skill and marketing for the club, for our on and off field wellness.

Finally - someone get's it. :clap:

Yeah, we need to start winning!

If only someone at our stupid club knew this.

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10596

camelboy wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

redback wrote:

Not far off the mark sydney. We have fallen behind due to many factors over the last 20 years. Seems like we have lost a fair chunk of generational support, another on field setback could be disastrous. We need to get the support and passion of the next generation and we need it soon before it's lost, that starts with on field success.
If they keep losing and playing uninspiring footy then they will switch off. We have a good crop of youngsters and we need to utilize their skill and marketing for the club, for our on and off field wellness.

Finally - someone get's it. :clap:

Yeah, we need to start winning!

If only someone at our stupid club knew this.

You’re so clever, you just get it, always have. :thumbsup:

dannyboy · **Posted:** Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:08 am

I know, let's go for each and every win - lets sack Bolts (go for an experienced coach - what's Sheedy doing nowadays?) ditch some of the young players for older players (go for Pendlebury from Collingwood, Sandilands from Fremantle), let's return to Princes Park, let's bring back the bluebells and let's reinstate Elliott! Yeah, things will turn around in a jiffy.

No need for a rebuild (where have I heard that before)

No need to stick to a plan (we never have in the past)

We're Carlton so @#$%&! patience!

Mind you it's hard to sing the song with all this sand in my throat....

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076