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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 9:58 pm 
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I reckon SOS will trade all our top picks this year for players


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:27 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Probably gone.....

Armfield
Buckley
Casboult (FA)
Gorringe
Jaksch
Palmer
Sumner
Gallucci*
LeBois*
Korcheck*
Sheehan*


Lineball....

Boekhorst
Graham
Kerridge
Lamb
Pickett
Simpson (ret?)
White
Glass-McCasker*
A Silvagni* (31 next year)


We're going to have to find more picks if we're to replace the guys who should be moved on. Casboult leaving might get us back into the second round.

SOS still has a lot of work ahead of him....


Good list ABNS. But I can't see Kerridge, Simpson, Pickett or Lamb not being on the list next year.

Simpson still in our best 8 players
Kerridge is one of the few that can get it 30 times a game
Pickett has another year on his deal
Lamb has been pretty good this year (best small fwd after wright).
And we will have delisted at least 6 players

Club not sure on casbolt. Don't want to pay him $600k+ over 3/4 years but my sense is they would be happy to pay him $500k or less on a 2 year deal.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:52 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Probably gone.....

Armfield
Buckley
Casboult (FA)
Gorringe
Jaksch
Palmer
Sumner
Gallucci*
LeBois*
Korcheck*
Sheehan*


Lineball....

Boekhorst
Graham
Kerridge
Lamb
Pickett
Simpson (ret?)
White
Glass-McCasker*
A Silvagni* (31 next year)


We're going to have to find more picks if we're to replace the guys who should be moved on. Casboult leaving might get us back into the second round.

SOS still has a lot of work ahead of him....


Good list ABNS. But I can't see Kerridge, Simpson, Pickett or Lamb not being on the list next year.

Simpson still in our best 8 players
Kerridge is one of the few that can get it 30 times a game
Pickett has another year on his deal
Lamb has been pretty good this year (best small fwd after wright).
And we will have delisted at least 6 players

Club not sure on casbolt. Don't want to pay him $600k+ over 3/4 years but my sense is they would be happy to pay him $500k or less on a 2 year deal.


Yeah, I agree odds are that Kerridge, Lamb & Pickett will be there next year. Perhaps instead of "lineball" I should have said "on their last chance next year". Thomas is another in that category I suppose - I'm fairly confident he will get a new incentive based contract (1 year with an option?).

Simmo might go around again, or he might decide that it's better to get out a year too early than a year too late....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:10 pm 
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sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Probably gone.....

Armfield
Buckley
Casboult (FA)
Gorringe
Jaksch
Palmer
Sumner
Gallucci*
LeBois*
Korcheck*
Sheehan*


Lineball....

Boekhorst
Graham
Kerridge
Lamb
Pickett
Simpson (ret?)
White
Glass-McCasker*
A Silvagni* (31 next year)


We're going to have to find more picks if we're to replace the guys who should be moved on. Casboult leaving might get us back into the second round.

SOS still has a lot of work ahead of him....


Good list ABNS. But I can't see Kerridge, Simpson, Pickett or Lamb not being on the list next year.

Simpson still in our best 8 players
Kerridge is one of the few that can get it 30 times a game
Pickett has another year on his deal
Lamb has been pretty good this year (best small fwd after wright).
And we will have delisted at least 6 players

Club not sure on casbolt. Don't want to pay him $600k+ over 3/4 years but my sense is they would be happy to pay him $500k or less on a 2 year deal.

Why don't you have Rowe on the lineball list? And Gibbs? Five players gone from the rookie list in a weak draft (supposedly)? Kerridge is also contracted next year too so I've heard. Don't want to lose Casboult for structural reasons and I'm growing tired of losing best 22 players for @#$%&! all. Gibbs is someone we might get a good enough deal for in return, even if it's yet another best 22 player gone next year.
Yeah Lamb has gone past Sumner; at the start of the year I thought it would be the opposite and the opposite for a delisting too. Graham has possibly more games to come, but I can't see his spot being saved; not after the Bulldogs' performance and the way he's played most of his career either. Not up to it.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:12 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
I reckon SOS will trade all our top picks this year for players

Such as? Doesn't look like we'll get much in the draft then as it's apparently thinner than the Abletts' hair.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:22 pm 
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1 max out of your line ball group.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:27 am 
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Bolt from the Blue wrote:
sticksaftersiren87 wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
Probably gone.....

Armfield
Buckley
Casboult (FA)
Gorringe
Jaksch
Palmer
Sumner
Gallucci*
LeBois*
Korcheck*
Sheehan*


Lineball....

Boekhorst
Graham
Kerridge
Lamb
Pickett
Simpson (ret?)
White
Glass-McCasker*
A Silvagni* (31 next year)


We're going to have to find more picks if we're to replace the guys who should be moved on. Casboult leaving might get us back into the second round.

SOS still has a lot of work ahead of him....


Good list ABNS. But I can't see Kerridge, Simpson, Pickett or Lamb not being on the list next year.

Simpson still in our best 8 players
Kerridge is one of the few that can get it 30 times a game
Pickett has another year on his deal
Lamb has been pretty good this year (best small fwd after wright).
And we will have delisted at least 6 players

Club not sure on casbolt. Don't want to pay him $600k+ over 3/4 years but my sense is they would be happy to pay him $500k or less on a 2 year deal.

Why don't you have Rowe on the lineball list? And Gibbs? Five players gone from the rookie list in a weak draft (supposedly)? Kerridge is also contracted next year too so I've heard. Don't want to lose Casboult for structural reasons and I'm growing tired of losing best 22 players for @#$%&! all. Gibbs is someone we might get a good enough deal for in return, even if it's yet another best 22 player gone next year.
Yeah Lamb has gone past Sumner; at the start of the year I thought it would be the opposite and the opposite for a delisting too. Graham has possibly more games to come, but I can't see his spot being saved; not after the Bulldogs' performance and the way he's played most of his career either. Not up to it.


I didn't include Gibbs because he is contracted. Aside from Pickett (my mistake) I think the others I listed are all coming out of contract.

Yeah you could add Rowe - but I think he would be very harshly treated if delisted. He was in career best form before injury and a leader. I would give him a 1 or 2 year deal. As I said earlier, you could add Thomas to the list too - but I tend to think he will go around again for us next year.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:31 pm 
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I've still seen Kerridge on the contract list for next year.
I didn't mean Rowe getting delisted, yes that would be harsh, I meant retirement, with a question mark?
PS. I think he'll play another year though and also think Thomas will too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:42 pm 
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Thankfully Kerridge is still contracted for next year...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:35 pm 
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Surely we would not give Rowe 2 years? An aging defender coming off a knee?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 3:48 pm 
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Agree Em but maybe we can pick up an out of contract delisted Menzel from Adelaide or rookie him :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:25 pm 
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For me, although not sure about contracts.

Gone;
Armfield, Gorringe, Gallucci, Korcheck, Palmer, Buckley, Jaksch, JGM and White.
Maybe; Boekhorst, Sumner and Sheehan.

Hoping to add Hooper.
Would love Kelly, will cost the farm though.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:11 pm 
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I would actually prefer to keep those borderline guys, particularly the midfielders rather than have a massive cull this season. With the draft being described as thin, with not many AFL players likely to come through past pick 30 according to some in the know, I don't see how adding a pick 60/70/80 player would help us at all.

One of the things we've seen in the 2s, is that when you have poor depth in the midfield, you quickly become non competitive with injuries which means our young key forwards, and any potential small forwards get absolutely starved of the footy and you stymie their development. Whilst acknowledging that Graham, Palmer, Armfield, Thomas and Buckley aren't necessarily part of the future, I'd prefer to have some decent twos players pumping the ball forward rather than pick up some random kid who will be rubbish in the twos like Clem Smith or Clinton Benjamin.

Of course, in SOS we trust. If he can engineer the necessary moves to turn the list over whilst maintaining a competitive VFL side, then that's fine by me too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 12:49 am 
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Blues87 wrote:
One of the things we've seen in the 2s, is that when you have poor depth in the midfield, you quickly become non competitive with injuries which means our young key forwards, and any potential small forwards get absolutely starved of the footy and you stymie their development. Whilst acknowledging that Graham, Palmer, Armfield, Thomas and Buckley aren't necessarily part of the future, I'd prefer to have some decent twos players pumping the ball forward rather than pick up some random kid who will be rubbish in the twos like Clem Smith or Clinton Benjamin.

Of course, in SOS we trust. If he can engineer the necessary moves to turn the list over whilst maintaining a competitive VFL side, then that's fine by me too.


Good argument for Graham in particular staying on the list. So nearly an AFL player but certainly a very good VFL player. If you don't have these types available you have to send your young forwards into the middle to get a touch. I'm mildly optimistic that the current brains trust understands the importance of this with regard to development. I guess we'll have this confirmed one way or another late this year.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:00 am 
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From what I have seen of JGM I think he looks pretty good. Just at the wrong end of the ground (in the sense we have a surplus of developing defenders) any chance he could be tried forward?


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Arnhem blues wrote:
From what I have seen of JGM I think he looks pretty good. Just at the wrong end of the ground (in the sense we have a surplus of developing defenders) any chance he could be tried forward?

He has had 2 years on the rookie list, which I think is the maximum for category A rookies. Has he shown enough to be promoted to the primary list? Not sure. There may be a spot for him if we're not picking up another KP or two from elsewhere via trade/draft/FA.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:33 pm 
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Blues87 wrote:
I would actually prefer to keep those borderline guys, particularly the midfielders rather than have a massive cull this season. With the draft being described as thin, with not many AFL players likely to come through past pick 30 according to some in the know, I don't see how adding a pick 60/70/80 player would help us at all.

One of the things we've seen in the 2s, is that when you have poor depth in the midfield, you quickly become non competitive with injuries which means our young key forwards, and any potential small forwards get absolutely starved of the footy and you stymie their development. Whilst acknowledging that Graham, Palmer, Armfield, Thomas and Buckley aren't necessarily part of the future, I'd prefer to have some decent twos players pumping the ball forward rather than pick up some random kid who will be rubbish in the twos like Clem Smith or Clinton Benjamin.

Of course, in SOS we trust. If he can engineer the necessary moves to turn the list over whilst maintaining a competitive VFL side, then that's fine by me too.


Maybe just contract these guys to the northern blues then?


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:44 pm 
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Surely we would not give Rowe 2 years? An aging defender coming off a knee?


There will be a deal done. In is not in Carlton's interest to make this a career ending injury. We sent him back out there when his knee was already shot and it caused further injury.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:06 pm 
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As good as SPS might be in the end ... I still think we should have traded that pick for the best young talent in the game ... Tom Mitchell. He is killing it ... another 2 or 3 votes in the Brownlow again tonight. Sooner or later he will win it. It could even be this year. Imagine if we had Cripps and Mitchell in the middle. Lost opportunity.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:23 pm 
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Thought he chose the Hawks?

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