stop making excuses - 4 good games this year - he just cannot sustain week after week

It's nothing to do with Gibbs's ability to sustain. Our midfield has been overwhelmed since Murphy went down. Cripps is struggling too. The depth is very, very poor. Dropping or trading one of these guys is madness. Stop the obsession with draft picks. We have picked so much crap with first rounders... mind you, so have other clubs. It's a gamble. With Gibbs, you have the guarantee of a very good, very experienced player. We need that.

and this is where we start to go back to the same issue - our recruiters - rodgers and hughes were generally poor- swan thought hughes and rodgers was great

we have no development - thats a board policy issue which has not been fixed

list manager - sos if the first list manager in our history

we still do not have a dedicated recruiter

you do the analysis now - you think this is a reset?

Coaches votes. One gave Simmo 3, one gave him donuts.

Carlton v Collingwood

10 Scott Pendlebury (Coll)

7 Ben Sinclair (Coll)

4 Brodie Grundy (Coll)

4 Ben Reid (Coll)

3 Kade Simpson (Carl)

1 Ed Curnow (Carl)

1 Sam Docherty (Carl)

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Good post Buzz. The miss was a let down but the pass was a tired brain fade or just lack of confidence at the end of first game. I think he said he was knackered, so I'll go the former. Certainly is going to add what we've lacked for a while....a classy creative HFF. Although I thought we'd found one in Menzel a little while back

Has faded badly after a great start to the year though it must be said ? There maybe reasons for it, but he was in the top 3 of most media awards at one stage.....

If I'm understanding your post correctly, you're saying that because we now have SOS managing the list then we should go all-out for a rebuild via the draft? Okay, there is some merit to that, but I don't think trading in all our prized assets - especially those in midfield where we are desperately thin and where experience is most valuable - is the answer. Look at GWS - draft concessions galore, a group of youngsters that make the rest of the league weep with envy, and yet they couldn't win a chook raffle until they brought in the likes of Shaw, Mumford and Johnson. You've got to have a mix of talent and experience if you're ever going to build anything. So if you're looking to trade experience for draft picks, you have to be carefully selective - trade out from areas where we have strength in numbers. At present I'd say Kreuzer is a prime candidate for the trading block given that Phillips is doing well and we have other options available, but we left that one a year too late. If some of our young talls can prove themselves in the back half of this season then the likes of Casboult, Rowe and White become expendable. But in midfield and up forward I don't think we have the luxury of cashing in.

The principle of trading is that if you trade junk you get junk....kruezer has no future. He failed 2 medicals last year with pies and dogs. .when his contract ends in 1 yr hes gone imo

I stand by my statement if can get quality picks for murphy and gibbs we should do it.

I was surprised he didnt comment on the game, let alone Kreuzer's performance after those 2 marks in the first quarter.

He's over at BF spruiking the same stuff others failed to agree with.
He wants Philips dropped because (jimmae's assertion remains) that all Philips does is jump high and nothing else.
Funny how most responding to his posts don't agree and ask why you would drop your best ruck?

I don't think he can accept that Kreuzer is not the "Great White Hope" he thought he'd be when he was playing for the Northern Knights.
Accept it, and move forward jimmae. Jimmae does add value but it seems to me he's a bit annoyed most will not agree with him on Philips and White.

Bottom line is Grundy beat No. 1 draft Kreuzer and the developing ruckman Philips around the park on Saturday night.

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kruezer also got slaughted against st kilda - its all over for Kruez I- i hope he has made some money so he has set himself up for the future

He's been busy on BF claiming that on Saturday night Everitt was getting stuck into aerial contests, was looking to lay tackles (how do you look to do it, but actually not lay one?.....By Googling it?) and got on the end of some searching runs.

His perceived lack of effort was apparently due to being exhausted after these said runs and not being able to find that extra 10% to commit to the contest.

I can only assume he's either trying talk up is trade value, is his manager, or is actually Andrejs himself.

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I've been saying for two years we should have got rid of Kreuzer and got sh*t canned for it.

There's no doubt he's a great guy, even Bolts says he is the heart and soul of the club (whatever that means) ...

I don't care if you have all the potential in the world, in this game you must deliver week in week out or your moved on. No exceptions.

The ONLY thing saving him is the fact he's never been able to have a long enough run at it to properly evaluate if he can deliver.

Its been a case of "if only" this "if only" that. For a number 1 draft pick, I'm sorry, its simply not good enough.

Haha. I've been a bit of an apologist for Everitt myself, but seeing it with my own two eyes at the ground.... Let me say, exhaustion had nothing to do with it - it happened in the first 5 minutes on our forward line. He stopped dead and didn't go in for the ball. Collingwood defence swept it away and Moore took a mark on their forward line. Luckily he missed.

I'm happy now to not have Everitt's 1 point something goals a game, given what they cost. I'd rather have Jones.

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I agree brother

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Everitt is neither a KPP or a midfielder and is around 26-27?
He is prime trade bait IMO.

Yep.

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In his prime at his 3rd potentially 4th club...

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Fingers crossed Frankston is interested...

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