Fried, Gleeson and Clarke are the only board members who've been in their positions for more than 5 years aren't they? I actually have some faith in the newer additions (who now out number the long term board members) to generate a change of culture. It appears to be happening right in front of our eyes. I don't know the inner workings of the board, but I'll have to believe that the other three members have been willing to change with the times or they'll be shuffled to the side.

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@cecil_anderson

There's no such thing as five years and changing
Bruce has had his fingers in Carlton for fifteen
Jeannie is there as a Pratt
Mark is a Bruce appointee and there for six years
There's a mathison
And all since the three names you mentioned are appointed
Probably the only two capables are the recent appointment and sayers who doesn't have time

All others are remnants of a terrible black history which dogs us. Mostly allies of the two major oligarchies that drive this club

Everybody fits into that..


That's called a culture! Culture of mediocrity

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At every age people would call you the same thing...

You're problem here is you're not adding to discussion.
You have no ammo
You're directing everything at me.. Loll so of course I'll toss everything into your face.

You're almost sounding green with envy because I'm here and I'm making salient, accurate, thought provoking , intelligent, insightful points.!

This is not about running down the club buddy.. This board has already done that! The decision makers who have disemboweled what used to be great are now pretending they didn't do anything wrong

We're screaming for accountabilty on the field but ignoring in the board room?
What kind of example is that for culture?

Answer!

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Oh, oh. I agree with Synners.


The board is totally non accountable. Simple truth.


One part of that unfortunately is we have no one else worthy or otherwise putting up their hand.

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"Get ready, Teddy - you're on": Ron Barassi half time 1970 Grand Final

Now if Synners put his hand up I would vote for him just to see how he stirs the pot.

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"Get ready, Teddy - you're on": Ron Barassi half time 1970 Grand Final

Alas the changes to the Constitution that the nuff-nuff Carlton members voted in would no longer allow for that.

That's not true Doc and you know it....

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

What part isn't true?

Exactly what you wrote

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Hmmm...the AGM from December 2014 doesn't ring a bell? Or are you referring to me calling Carlton members nuff-nuffs? Hard to argue with both points really!

Teddy doesn't understand constitutional change and how that can be a democracy but not s democracy

I think teddy is a lawyer though

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Remember when I brought that to to everybody's attention.
They crapped their dacks.
Mark had to go on and address it. He said other clubs have it like errrr Essendon*... Who were a closed shop with many skeletons in the closet!

That's the model

Wouldn't want outsiders poking around

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You can take the communist viewpoint, or you can take the realistic viewpoint that you need to bring skills to the board that are needed.

The exercise no longer stops at shoring up factional numbers nor having a ridiculous over abundance of specific skill sets. Such as we had with 3 lawyers/barristers at one stage.

I'll agree Carlton supporters are rare breed though.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Or like Hawthorn

Or like any reputable business in the western world....

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

So if communism means bad and western means good Carlton is communist and cronyistic corrupt clandestineinefficient wasteful etc

OK I'm with you!
So what's the give?
Very very animal farm!
Good insight mate! Perfect analogy

Right down to not tolerating any criticism of the pigs at the top by the dogs at the bottom in that book

I get you brother!

Don't know how err can have a conversion on or board and compare it to hawks though

That's a long shot!
The rest you're on the money

Skill set? What's Mark's exactly?

On the communist thing you so insightfully brought up

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secreta ... viet_Union


You do understand what's going on and the model used don't you?

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Lol, Synners you're not going to drag me into a debate I don't give 2 shits about.

I gave you the glass half full view

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

I think most members thought that the 'vetting' would give Andrew McKay something to do.
Bless their cotton socks...

Carlton supporters aren't a rare breed. They have seen 3 rebuilds been flowered, they have a team with more top 10 draft picks than any other in history continuously fail - year after year, after year, they have seen their club ripped apart through multiple leadership changes - with still no clear future direction on multiple key points (home ground, financials, success), just to name a few.

Maybe, just maybe they feel betrayed and unconvinced while we keep losing ground on the top teams.
Maybe, just maybe they want to see some success with a team full of top draft picks, trades of talented players stopped, some semblance of a home ground advantage, some financial success, etc....

Anyway - keep blaming the supporters for not being patient or quite.....

The point is, if you have a skill set that is something not already on the board and you have a background of getting shit done then put your hand up.

Last thing a board needs is circle jerk arguments like I'd imagine was happening when the board had 13 directors

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Sorry - but that's not how Carlton works.