tap in 79 wrote:
robertbb wrote:
So the AFL throws money into Kardinia Park... but not into Princes Park.
So the AFL grants Hawthorn the use of Waverly for $1 a year... and flowers us with a shit deal at Etihad.
Pretty clear what's going on.
Waverley was an asset created BY ALL THE CLUBS and yet Hawthorn was the ONLY club that benefitted out of it TWICE. Double dipping please..
The funds from matches at Waverley between Carlton vs Collingwood, Carlton vs Essendon***, Carlton vs Geelong etc all resulted in an asset that the AFL then sold for a lot of money.
Surely the AFL should have decreased the annual dividend Hawthorn got as a result of the $1 rent scenario. Mirvac agreed to the $1 deal, but a strong AFL would have altered downwards the Hawthorn dividend or taken a cut out of Hawthorn's windfall when Hawthorn sold Glenferrie for $2 million. That cut could have then gone to the other clubs.
The Tasmanian situation has been a fiasco to be honest. Hawthorn has played the AFL to a tee. Ever seen the movie the Sting? The AFL has been stung by Hawthorn so many times...the Hawthorn board must have gathered around their boardroom in meetings and laughed their heads off.
And yet you can bet your bottom dollar the AFL won't have the money to put into redeveloping Princes Park...yet Hawthorn is about 30 million the richer.
Just about everything you've written here is not supported by the evidence or historical fact.
Waverly was sold in its entirety to Mirvac (and funds from which were distributed to ALL AFL clubs over the next 6 years). Mirvac were unable to demolish the oval and heritage listed parts of Waverly and needed a tenant, so Mirvac - and not the AFL who had no ability to do a deal on land they didnt own anymore - did a straight commercial deal with Hawthorn.
As for Glenferrie, the Oval itself was never Hawthorns to sell, they did sell the social club across the road for 2.5 million - moneys to which the AFL is not now, nor has it ever been entitled to. The league does not get a cut of club assets, and never has been entitled to them.
You dont describe the Hawthorn situation in Tasmania any better either. Never mind that the Tasmanian Governemnt ruled out the AFLs plan and stated they would only deal with Hawthorn, and never mind that Hawthorn stuck around after every else had bolted of their own accord or anything. Its all obviously an evil conspiracy regardless of the evidence.
Carlton allowed itself to be bullied by the AFL, and mislead by Ian Collins' vested interests. Hawthorns fortunes have nothing to do with our lack, most of that is the fault of the club and consecutive incompetent boards.
No.kennett got a deal with the Tasmanian Government rolling in cash for hawthorn. ..