I'll agree that the timing of the challenge is poor, but perhaps the challenging ticket (comprised of "powerful business figures", apparently) has put together a strategy and direction they feel is superior to that implemented by MlG and would like to give members the opportunity to avail of it.

"He who knows when to fight, and when not to, will always be victorious". Sun Tzu - The Art of War. I hope they've read it.

Anyway, competition can *only* be a good thing.

Interestingly, I learned recently that my old man was invited to join the Carltonians and knocked it back because he thought it was too much of a circle jerk.

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You need to think carefully about what the current board has "achieved" over the last 14 years (yes it's the same board) and balance that against what "progress" has been made in the last six months and then try to tell us again how much more time they "deserve".

The Malthouse debacle was all about Malthouse and his insecure self, nothing less and nothing more

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Yep.

I'll view this board by their courage in staying the course which has finally been set.

If they keep out of Trigg's way, allow him and the senior management team in the club to do their jobs and follow through with the plan. If they hold the current management team accountable for following the plan, and provide them support where needed - particularly sponsorship and any further senior management hires required (eg I think your idea on a fan engagement position is excellent).

If they continue to change their composition and better reflect the skill set required in a modern competition (I think the recent appointment is an example of this).

They are not perfect and changes were (are) required. The changes which have occurred to date, from where I sit, seem to be positive and warrant being played out.

What's a Pratt led rival ticket going to offer? Some version of Brayshaw's white knights? I guess we can only view that when they summon the courage to put their names out there and lay out a vision.

Lol, but these shadow hounds want to take a couple from it :ROFL:

It's clear for all to see the ones they'd take are the ones that will shore up their numbers and return to power.

They'll probably want the AGM on Boxing Day so they can screen Star Wars as the entertainment

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

Lol, next year will be too late. It's a last ditch bid before the club finally moves on from the past and into the future

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

So you're essentially hoping the leopard has changed its spots?

I get the whole 'what can the other mob do that this mob isn't already doing?' argument...but please enlighten me on what Zac Fried, Marcus Clarke, Adrian Gleeson and Craig Mathieson bring to the table.

totally agree that long term board members should be having serious questions asked of them. But I would ask you - are these some of the guys who would be coopted into your new, shinier and better ticket? Or are there other long term underperforming board members who fall into that category?

Can anyone on the planet explain to me what Adrian Gleeson brings to the table?

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Adrian is a Certified Financial Planner.

That means he abides by the FPA Code of Ethics and Code of Professional Practice. Leave him alone!

Wont affect his employment status but could 1000% affect his ability to get anything done if he is at loggerheads with whatever platform the new ticket brings.

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Steven came to the club with the AFL's full endorsement...I'll leave it at that.

A genuine alternative ticket ? ... not convinced it's much more than a kite flying exercise to gauge the response.

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Could be spot on. Those that normally hear whispers are clutching at straws. Myself included. Having said that - a kite flying exercise isn't necessarily a bad idea. Shit - if I were LoGiudice I'd conduct my own fake challenge kite flying exercise.

Does the Judge have a political advisor, happy to nominate you TKI.

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I nominate Eli Gold

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”