Wallet gave us a B- on SEN straight after trade deadline. He thought we did well.

If SOS gained more than 19+ for Yarran, and got Tomlison over the line, and still end with picks 1, 8, 19+ IMO everyone would have given SOS an A.

So he ended getting us 1, 8, 11 and 19 (and nearly 12) from 1, 21, 36 and 4 highly valued players and the rookie ruckman we need and who want to play with us. We are all happy.

We got players who wanted to play for Carlton and moved on those who didn't fit in. Bell with exceptional circumstances.

KP: Plowman for Henderson
MIds: Sumner Kerridge Lamb for Yarran & Bell
Ruck: Phillips for Warnock and Wood

I've seen Sumner play and he's hot. Well, when he's hot he's hot. Intense, fact of the matter and quick with a low centre of gravity that helps to win frees. When he's carrying injury like anyone they play hindered. I' m sure he's over the foot injury. He's quick.

Plowman is a good footballer; no question.

They want to play with us. With Bolton's Blue's

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B+ from Mr Tanman.

http://www.sen.com.au/news/10-15/2015-afl-trade-period-terry-wallace-s-report-card#3fieARVrFH2FDgyy.97

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I read the Buckernera one. It's great. You just need to ignore the good 2 or 3 sentences he spends saying it was a good move to send OUR future first rounder to GWs (not Geelong's), even if it will be a good pick because we're going to be crap.

He actually thinks we traded our future first rounder. Not Geelong's.

Haven't crunched the numbers, but how are list numbers and what does this mean for White, Warnock and Armfield?

34 on the senior list right now, with a minimum 5 picks at the draft, and perhaps either a delisted free agent or PSD selection.

So let's say 6 more coming in. That means 2 more to come off the list, most likely Warnock and White.

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I was pleased with the outcome. Clearly the 4 GWS boys are not all stars but if one of them is a solid player, that will be a win and maybe Plowman and Sumner might be long term players and Phillips a handy back up ruckman. We have clearly decided on a year zero approach, which we needed and have traded talent for grunt and commitment, hopefully the real silk will come through the draft, which we have to absolutely nail.

It is year one and it will be a slow rebuild to the future but for the first time in a long time I think we are on the right track. I hope White and Armfield stay. They are tough, willing and good citizens. It would be criminal if they get chopped and Jones and Tutt stay (tho Tutt does try hard.) And I can't see why a delisted free agent would improve the team or be better than White or Armfield.

Clearly the many of us who thought Carlisle was an overpriced idiot were right, just disappointing the Saints didn't get wind of it before handy over #5 to Essenscum.

Last year we played virtually all the good sides after Mick went so the year wasn't quite as bad as it seemed. And losing Yarran, Hendo and Menzel won't make us worse than this season as they didn't contribute. It will be a long way back but finally we seem to have a coherent plan that we are following and if we get great effort from the talented and the mediocre alike I will be happy and look forward to 2016.

well, he did promise to come back one day and help us win a premiership

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Yep, I reckon that'll really catch on. You're a branding guru, yeah?

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Cant see White going, he just won the Best Clubman award and ninth in B&F.

White is signed AFAIK

We'd better nail at least 3 of our (Picks 1, 8, 11 and 19).

Because next year we really have nothing left of value to trade back into the top 10 again.

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Next year there will still be clubs looking for points not players.
Father son and academy. If we're smart we can bundle average picks for high picks. Melbourne did that in the deal for Bugg. Next year other clubs will be onto it. This year we capitalised on GWS needing T reduce their list by 5. Just need to work the rules

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We should have nailed down the Tomlinson trade before we agreed to do their dirty work and a huge favour by taking the four players THEY wanted off their list.

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Missing out on Tomlinson, can't help but think we'll do a Sam Rowe and get a mature KPF from VFL or interstate leagues, using a later draft pick or via PSD.

Hope the draft gurus around here can throw up a few names??

I was thinking that too. Mitch Brown if he lasts to the PSD?

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Wallet is a fool, this is that same wanker who said that yarran was only worth a 3rd rounder and bell a 3rd or 4th.

Why anyone cares what the wannabe experts think is beyond me. The only opinion that matters is BVs. He is a rockstar as far as I'm concerned.

My only concern is the one Agro outlined above. We have nothing left to trade next year. That said, I don't think SOS had much option given the state of the list.

haha. cool your jets. i understand anyone coming through our doors we tend to look at, as some kind of future saviour. it's good to be cup half-full so good on you!

but yeah, i have seen a bit of the guys we bought in and have access to a few bits and pieces at work.


laidler has only beat a handful of guys at the swans physical preseason metrics testing. Lamb was one of those players. Laidler gets by in the afl b'cos he has excellent IQ, awareness and his ability to read the play and break up attacks from his great positioning. Lamb doesn't have the footy iq of laidler, and he's slower and not as agile. hopefully he has more endeavour than liam jones, that alone might get him a game over jones?

Saw lots of kerridge at the crows when I did a 6-month work contract out that way. hence the carrazzo-lite comparison. in fact there's lots of replication in Whiley and kerrdige. Basically, both have tanks and that's it.

Plowman, has potential. As of right now though, Simon White is a better third tall option at the back. No doubt GWS weighed up Plowman's potential over several other key defenders they have around the same age and deemed his potential to be the least of those, so that's why we got him for such a low cost.

haven't seen any of sumner ... but considering we got him for free. literally for free! it's not a stretch to think he'll be in the ants considering he's managed 12 senior games for a bottom of the ladder outfit in 4 seasons.

phillips is in to replace wood and hopefully he does, and is not a downgrade. I thought wood had a pretty good season last year. he gave maximum effort in a team where few others did, so maybe that's why wood stood out.