Hopefully can be persuaded to retire...

Who signed him up till 2017 ???

Incompetence.

I still think he can be of some value to us as a forward. It was a while ago now, but his best year for us came when he played at that end of the ground.

Oddly, despite being an ordinary field kick, he is a pretty good kick for goal. I never understood why we ever moved him to half-back.

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

Imagine if we traded around the top 40% of our list to replenish it virtually 1:1, without doing anything to address the quality of the remaining 60%.

Sensational, sign me up.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I guess my thought process is if the player realistically wont be around when we make a push in 3-4years we should be pushing him out asap. Short term pain long term gain.

Walker's value is at an all-time low, and while some are pessimistic about his knee I'll wait and see what happens in the off-season. His retirement would be a blow to our future plans IMO.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

He turns 30 next season, do you think he'll be around for our next finals bid?

What pick do you hope to get for him?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Your such a negative individual. How about let's do nothing and stay where we are.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

I also *hope* that his body recovers sufficiently so he can contribute next year, but realistically it doesn't seem likely...

i heard walker's knee was down to pretty much bone-on-bone. that's cause for retirement if it's true.

That's the rumour, yes.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

If Walker and SOS negotiate a retirement settlement, I'm sure the AFL would tick it off and release our TPP of his salary for the next 2 years.

I highlighted a plan of my own, but it wasn't young talent time in your mind so you rolled your eyes.

Nothing you've suggested is innovative, merely punitive towards the character of certain individuals.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Correct, though it would come in the form of an insurance payout.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

What a load of crap. For the self appointed oracle fo everything you really do miss the point.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Explain, in excruciating detail, how that plan improves the overall quality of the list for 2018.

What are our trade options in 2016? 2017?

As I see it, we have 13 players who would genuinely command a first or second round draft choice right now, and they are:

Menzel, Murphy, Gibbs, Tuohy, Byrne, Casboult, Everitt, Bell, Henderson, Yarran, Docherty, Cripps, Kreuzer

In addition to this I believe we have 9 players who are either of senior quality to support the side during the rebuild that would be undervalued in a trade, or that will come to be of value in a trade in time (i.e. developing youngsters), these are:

Simpson, Walker, Buckley, Boekhorst, Thomas, Jamison, Graham, Jaksch, Sheehan

If we're very lucky, 50% of the following names (though more likely 25%) will have some value at the trade table prior to 2018-2019:

Giles, Holman, Viojo-Rainbow, Smith, Foster, Gowers, Walsh, Fields



Let's say 75% of the 'future stars' make it, that gives us 6 more players of value if we're being realistic. Tack on first and second draft choices for 2016 & 2017, maybe give Rice or Silvagni one chance to be on this list between them and you're looking at another 5 players in the future before trades and free agency.

That's 26 bargaining chips over 3 off-seasons, unless we hit the lottery, and you seem keen to shove up to 6 of them out the door this off-season. Sounds like a small number I know, except that we spend these same chips trying to win games.

So we barely field a quality team. Yeah we might swing some free agency moves and maybe get a little bit out of a 2 for 1 and picks back trade here and there but you are repeatedly and genuinely advocating haemorrhaging a weak list to give it a more positive glow while still maintaining the status quo that gave us a shit list in the first place.

We are under no obligation to trade Yarran and Menzel, and given the suitors and the picks being bandied about, we'd be downright stupid to consider it.

Kreuzer, Bell and Henderson offer more value in terms of pick vs output, but I maintain Kreuzer is worth retaining because he will be there in 2018 and he may even accelerate our progress. He needs a partner in crime though, which is why we need to clear out Wood, Warnock and develop, while maybe picking up a Jamar for 1 season and crossing our fingers with Korchek.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

It's not about a pick really, it's about the spot on the team, if we can trade him and a packet of chips for a 4th rounder in the 2016 draft i'll take it. That or he retires, i personally think longterm it would be better to have youth fill his spot.

I agree, but he will be phased out of the team naturally, and is worth more to us than pick 55 in this draft.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

We might get 5 picks in the top 20 in this years draft, but I bet they'll never get the introduction into AFL that James Rose #37 pick in the 2014 National Draft did in his debut game today.

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