it's against WADA rules to pay a suspended athlete isn't it?

If we get him for cheap using psd threat etc even if he gets banned, we won't lose much. And he gets to sue Essendon* for loss of earnings.

If the WADA appeal gets pushed back to November as is being floated in the media, I think we'd avoid. October suits our PSD plans.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I have less of a problem with short term franchise tags (1 yr max) than the current situation where every other team in the league has access to top end talent being restricted because the AFL is a nanny state who uses the compensation band setup to manipulate the draft to their own ends, eg Frawley in lieu of a priority pick.

This competition is a joke of the highest order.

if he comes in PSD Im all for it -otherwise no -probably paper talk in any case -23 kpp for nothing except salary why not -even might through Big Knockers in for free

sorry that's throw BIG KNOCKERS in for free -Warnock would look good in bummers jumper

Interesting statement by Alan Richardson on radio.

"you want to get games into kids when rebuilding.."

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Maclure on Fox saying Silvagni needs to trade Yarran, Henderson & Menzel for early picks.

Said unfortunately we are restricted by poor deals for Thomas Tutt & Jones.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Out: Everything

In: Draft

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Jones tutt cashboult jasck whiley watson crrazzo judd wood all gone who else

We seriously need to strip the list back and start again.

Only ones worth keeping are Cripps Docherty Buckley Kruezer Jaksch Simpson Bell Graham Touhy Sheehan Byrne.

As far as I'm concerned the rest are up for grabs via trade or delist. We need as many picks as we can get. Over the next 3 years we need to turnover at least 25-30 of the list. It's going to take 4-5 years to get a good list together and that's if we start now and get most right.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Any chance of Weitering seriously considering challenging the draft rules in court?

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“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

You know you're struggling for material when you're using MacClure as a reference.

Judd, Carrazzo, Watson, Ellard and Warnock are gone or already know they're going.

Wood, Rowe, White and Casboult would know they're not all going to survive the next 18 months at this club, along with Walker, Johnson, Tutt, Jones, Dick, Whiley, Russell, Fields and Smith.

We'll probably look to bring in 4-6 via the draft (including the F/S picks), 1 maybe 2 via the cumulative efforts of FA, trading and the PSD, and then probably 4 rookies. This burn the joint down crap is not going to cut it.

The problem isn't the intrinsic value of the top 30 players on our list when rated on potential, it's how they're developed and utilised, and then it's the gap from those 30 to the remainder due to some dumb acquisitions and some rookie selections that have been moved through and retained that shouldn't have been.

I'd be looking for a total turnover of 8 on the senior list.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I'm confident in one thing with SOS....

Regardless of how the list was put together, he's come from a club with the best crop of youngsters in the AFL to the worst. There's no-one better placed to realise that this is gong to take more than just a Weitering or nailing one draft, or pinning our hopes on rookie list/discards.

And after winning bugger all games, but hopefully pumping games into the kids, there should be no internal pressure to start chasing big names or selling the farm for free agents until the job is complete. Being mates with the President should ensure that the right message will be conveyed back to board level.

Everyone needs to be on the same path, and thankfully that path will be mapped out by the club, for the new coach to follow rather than letting him set the agenda.

It will test the patience of many, but like Geelong in Thompson's early years or Clarkson in Hawthorn's we must remain loyal and stick to the plan. People wanted them sacked, but the right people eg Dunstall/Costa/Cook refused to give in to those demands.

The key is not only the head coach, but every appointment around him.....

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I hope your right Blueboy74. The comments of Trigg have me concerned. He said the list won't be stripped back and just needs an injection of some youth. Otherwise it's okay.

Surely they need to see we have to strip back the list, employ the right coaches and recruiters and rebuild. Is it that hard??? St Kilda & Footscray are showing the benefits. If we don't we may build back to a mid range team but that's it. It will be the same as before. Years in the wilderness floating between the middle and the bottom of the ladder.

We need tough driven players with good skills. At the moment we are soft.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Surely now we realise the list needs to be stripped back and fully rebuilt. If not at best we will float around mid table. Too many players that aren't good enough.

I hope SOS will be given full authority to rebuild the list over the next 3-4 years.

Cripps, Graham, Docherty, Buckley, Jaksch, Holman, Bell, Touhy, Sheehan, Byrne should be the core for the rebuild.

Yarran, Menzel, Henderson, Gibbs, Jamison, Kruezer need to be considered for trade to advance the list.

Jones, Thomas, Tutt, Dick, Rowe, White, Watson, Warnock, Everitt, Curnow, Armfield, Carrazzo, Ellard need to be exited as soon as possible.

The rest are debatable.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Thanks. Glad you've given us permission.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Lol Jamison trade?

You'll be lucky to get pick 70.

we simply should not waste any more energy on duds.
Tutt and Jones must go and we count our losses.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

No argument re: Tutt - either on a deal expiring at end of year, or one to come with not much coin attached to it.

Paying Jones out two years - depends on the rules of how it impacts the TPP. If we pay out two years do they count against our salary cap for the respective amounts to be paid in 2016 and 2017; or is it one lump sum against our 2016 cap?

If its the latter, would have concerns that it impacts the bottom third of our list, rather than the top (i.e. it'd stop us recruiting an extra rookie/retaining say Giles, as opposed to making us think twice about our offer to Carlisle)

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?