So he left for 450k?
Look the reason he left is because we wouldn't couldn't come to the party on thee offer he received.
We were full to the brim.. After years of playing in finals and running flags we couldn't fit them all in.
Eddie had to be set free...

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Your information on this is wrong Synbad.
Betts left because we wouldn't up the offer, yes but not because we were full.
Malthouse statement was "Thomas will give us more versatility then Eddie and do what Eddie does now as well"

http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/a-c ... gz9i6.html


Not bad from a was another washed up coach that delivered us 2 spoons

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Yes that's the spin.
You're sounding like psychologist telling me u was wrong about a full salary cap when later I was proven right three years straight on the salary cap
Eddie left because daisy came and our salary cap was full.
The question should never be about Eddie or Thomas but how was our salary cap full?
All kinds of clubs bring in players and ft them in...
We couldn't...

The answer is this.

Our management of salaries is as bad as ever other aspect of course...

I always say if you see one cockroach you can bet there are a thousands more hiding under the floorboards


So let me ask you this Surrey.. If you think my sources are wrong.
In your opinion how many boxes has this club been ticking and what are they?

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Synbad - my response wasn't about how many boxes management tick. That is for a different discussion and to be truthful we have had a change of management which now must be given time to show what they are about. Board is a different matter again but we are talking about Betts and his move was MM's decision in the end. If he wanted him, he stayed.

Where is the leadership from Trigg and La Guidice?

hey're entitled to make their own decision, but if I was chairman of Carlton I'd get the board together, I'd get the coaches, I'd get the players, I'd get the staff and I'd say to everybody regardless of what happens we're not going to make a decision until the end of the year, but in the meantime we want everyone together. We don't want any scuttlebutt, any Chinese whispers, any factions or splinter groups, don't want anyone whingeing or moaning. And if anyone from outside, like a Mark Maclure, opens his trap I'd say to Mark Maclure, if I was the president, 'Listen Mark, you were a wonderful premiership player for us, pull your head in. If you want to help come into the club now,"' he said.

Perfect day to show him the door
Press wouldn't know what story to cover

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Great Idea, the press gallery will all be busy down at the river covering the sinking of the Hovercraft!

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Yeah. We both made 2 coaches the highest paid coaches at the time of signing from memory.

You don't take the money, then expect a lot of leeway. If you want to be paid the highest salary, then expect to be deadman walking when your not getting results. You don't pay project managers a $1000 a day to not deliver results. If your project isn't delivering results, then your out the door.

I have no sympathy for pagan, malthouse etc. Pagan should be saying l failed. Malthouse should man up and say l failed, then step down. Not blame the playing list. When your players have no intensity, you might as well walk. I like the intensity shown by the cats on Friday night. That is what l want to see. I don't care if they can't kick the ball, hand ball, but at least have the intensity to tackle and be ferocious around the contest. That comes from motivation and desire. The coach drives that. When you can't get that out of the playing group, what is the point of being there.

The only thing l got from the Prez was that he is a FWit and not making decisions in the best interest of the club or he made that strong statement knowing MM is going to pull the pin and retire. Why on else would you say a coach with 1-6 record is safe for the season after losing to the bottom side. I hope that is the case.

The only reality as far as developing a good football side is opportunity, tanking or not. Who's to say Weitering isn't that good and Carlton's plight isn't that bad? I think the whole tanking issue is a bit of a red herring, myself.

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Actually it's the same debate.
The salary cap management wasn't prudent either was list management. Or anything else...
Bettts should have been signed up the season prior or shipped off.

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I don't think pagan and Mick expect sympathy .they're not multi premiership winning coaches because they're sympathy seekers.
I'll tell you who gets sympathy... Carlton gets sympathy from supporters of other clubs...

How many times do you think opposition players administrators supporters and the media take us as a club seriously.?

Not sure how you're getting caught up on pagan and Mick in all of this...

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Pagan for president i say.

In all serious, that article sums up carlton perfectly.
Synbad what i dont get is, the board does have people who get it, puppets or otherwise. why arent even doing basic things like tell mcClure to pull his head in, actually showing support for Mick while he is the coach. are board meeting actually happening or are they watching replays of the 95 GF and leaving it all to Mark.

we have piss poor leadership on the board (and half this site moans about essendons accountability - we are no better)

and we have piss poor leadership on the field

mick as game day coach is finished. i think his time ia up. but he has been more of a leader than anyone else i have seen at CFC for a long time. he back Marc up ALWAYS. thats what leaders do. the next coach will not make much difference. he is surrounded by fools.

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Oy Vey

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posted in another thread by someone here.

sure goes to illustrate how carlton, the board and pres etc spend more time covering their own arse, then attempting to resurrect the football club in any meaningful capacity.

mind blown!


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Mentioned this to someone at work literally 15 minutes before you posted it.

We're [REDACTED].

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O say does that star spangled banner yet wave.

we're a bigger mess than Essendon*.

Oh Yes... I've been banging on this all along..
And yeah I wrote about the extreme measures to shore up the defences rather than be cutting edge as a club

It's not a good look is it Jim?
And you want to know why it's not a good look? Because it stinks Jim!

It only reinforces the perception of this club building layers and layers of an elitist ecosystem .

Basically what that also tells you is don't listen to what they say.. Watch what they do

There is no genuine engagement and conduit from the board to the masses.

They're keeping people out.. We need to isolate them and starve them and smoke them out

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Oh and Jim.
They're already gone to the media.. But they're not going to get rejected first!
People don't see themselves as tuna so John West can reject them.

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Easily.

No Good Players, No Money, No Plan, No idea and we are being run by a group of people who's ego's are so fragile they spend their time sureing up their positions than doing the right thing by the club.

Carlton Football Club is NOT a members club.

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