Braithy wrote:
in the history of bad ideas, this is about the worst i've ever heard.
we don't need to merge.
Agree, and no need for me to read this thread other than to identify the supporters I would prefer just leave the club now and support current ladder leaders.
So we fail to play finals foe a decade or two or three, it turns around and I give you the tip how history works....we will rise and others will drop.
We have changed the Presidents who oversaw our short term demise, Elliot, Kernahan and we will turn up the heat of the current if we don't improve.
Same with the recruitment team.
We have Princes Park and North don't.
We have 45,000 members and we aren't even playing finals.
We will be out of debt as soon as we choose to where many will be.
We turnover tens of millions more than others
We have huge following around the country.
We play footy like every other team to represent a group of loyal supporters to have something to show their value with succeed, and in this business its flnals and flags.
We have the most flags and we've played in more finals than nearly every team in the comp bar Collingwood...and we will again, just as teams not in the finals over the last 10 years will.
I'm proud of the achievements of our forefathers and I believe we will build a team with the right group of people to win the 17th flag before others reach that milestone.
Those supporters if that's what you call yourselves can piss off now. :

and go and get a root or something if you're bored.
We are the custodians of this club. Get it. We have no need to merge.
Just at training tonight in the Eastern Suburbs footy team my kids play with, in rugby town Sydney there were 7 Carlton jumpers running around on kids proud as punch, and there's 2 others we know of who proudly barrack for the Blues and 3-4 sheepish supporters or more plus parents....and the kids look forward to watching their team with a super rich history stretching 150 years. They know nothing about politics and don't need to; that's for others to do at the club and on these forums.
We are a bigger club than some of you realise and we don't need you to devalue it.
Put all that in a good marketers hand and they can turn that to gold....and one day soon there will be a smart marketer who will love to take on the job of polishing what's tarnished and will be a most rewarding job. That's what good marketers do.
Improve our list over the next 3 years and we can play finals again.
Have a look at the aging lists above us. They will fall down the ladder and their positions replaced by those below them. It happens every year, decade and century.
Chicken shits wanting instant results don't have the patience to ride through the tough times. Go to another team if you want instant results. You'll be dead and gone like many others have over the last 150 years and the club will still be around and they will win premierships. You know why? Because history does repeat itself and our time will come, and will come quicker the sooner we rid ourselves of disloyal troublemakers wanting to see the demise of our team as Carlton.
Stick you big ideas up your arse.