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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:36 am 
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Everitt just came equal 7th in our B&F.

He'd have to be very bloody unlucky.

Can't see any of the top 10 missing out if fit:

1 Bryce Gibbs
2 Marc Murphy
3 Kade Simpson
4 Chris Yarran
5 Sam Rowe
6 Michael Jamison
=7 Andrejs Everitt
=7 Chris Judd
9 Sam Docherty
10 Dale Thomas

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:05 pm 
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BKB, the back six simply reflects we have so many HB/midfield weapons of genuinely quality that we need some of them to do a few roles if we want to keep them in the side. Would you dump Sheehan, Tuohy or Docherty?

As for the point on Everitt, I can see him making his way in for Casboult, but then we're left without a capable relief ruck role. Watto maybe, Cripps might be able to pinch hit around the ground but it's definitely a loss.

Right now you just can't ignore Watson and Jones' goal scoring form, Boekhurst's raw pace and foot skills and that's something that forces other players out of the side. Everitt is a casualty of that as he doesn't do enough at either end and we can use Thomas, Gibbs & Curnow more effectively in most defensive roles.

I can honestly see Hendo playing down back if this trend continues.

The key thing that comes out of this is that on paper we have the luxury of picking a form side, and if the boys manage their egos and the staff manage their bodies, that means finals.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:41 pm 
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..I can dig that jimmae, I also like to load up on the best talent with application first, and try to balance the team out of that.. ..but I think you're being very demanding with Everitt, he was good fwd and back, and worked well as run with on the flanks.. ....and kicked goals when he pushed fwd too..

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 Post subject: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:52 pm 
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..a lot of run in your team jimmae, not much height..



We have Cripps on the bench, how much more height do you want?


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:22 pm 
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Everitt just came equal 7th in our B&F.

He'd have to be very bloody unlucky.

Can't see any of the top 10 missing out if fit:

1 Bryce Gibbs
2 Marc Murphy
3 Kade Simpson
4 Chris Yarran
5 Sam Rowe
6 Michael Jamison
=7 Andrejs Everitt
=7 Chris Judd
9 Sam Docherty
10 Dale Thomas


Great effort by Docherty and Thomas who didn't have a Preseason....and of course the arrival of Rowe

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:28 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
BKB, the back six simply reflects we have so many HB/midfield weapons of genuinely quality that we need some of them to do a few roles if we want to keep them in the side. Would you dump Sheehan, Tuohy or Docherty?

As for the point on Everitt, I can see him making his way in for Casboult, but then we're left without a capable relief ruck role. Watto maybe, Cripps might be able to pinch hit around the ground but it's definitely a loss.

Right now you just can't ignore Watson and Jones' goal scoring form, Boekhurst's raw pace and foot skills and that's something that forces other players out of the side. Everitt is a casualty of that as he doesn't do enough at either end and we can use Thomas, Gibbs & Curnow more effectively in most defensive roles.

I can honestly see Hendo playing down back if this trend continues.

The key thing that comes out of this is that on paper we have the luxury of picking a form side, and if the boys manage their egos and the staff manage their bodies, that means finals.


I expect you to argue your point well.

I have to have a good look and think about you POV. I don't think Watto has proved much Imo playing against Fields. Looking at highlights this morning Watto was too big and perhaps too experienced too for his opponent fields. Don't get me wrong because there's plenty of time for Watto to continue to show that form. I think Wood can ruck for most of the day. After all he virtually did that last year with bugger all fitness.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:36 pm 
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..Bolt is the obvious relief ruck, unless they go for a warnock wood double act..?.. ..and use bolt as a FF..?..

....Watto has been playing forward for a while in the ressies, and i reckon he is the sort of player that will only develop in the seniors.. ..sure has had a few shakey moments, but thats to be expected in a young kpp under a season's worth of experience.. ....he is a very good reader of the ball.. ..he is kpp size no doubt, but i think his natural playing role is best suited to a third tall type, he is more an attacking, intercepting and rebounding defender, so playing up forward could translate well for him.. ..i admit i wanted him tp be given a genuine chance across HB, i didnt think he could play forward.. ..but he has definitely shown something, last game of 2014 some of his running was very good..

..and who do you think is a more accurate kick for goal out of our other forward options?, especially outside the 50..?..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 4:55 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
jimmae wrote:
BKB, the back six simply reflects we have so many HB/midfield weapons of genuinely quality that we need some of them to do a few roles if we want to keep them in the side. Would you dump Sheehan, Tuohy or Docherty?

As for the point on Everitt, I can see him making his way in for Casboult, but then we're left without a capable relief ruck role. Watto maybe, Cripps might be able to pinch hit around the ground but it's definitely a loss.

Right now you just can't ignore Watson and Jones' goal scoring form, Boekhurst's raw pace and foot skills and that's something that forces other players out of the side. Everitt is a casualty of that as he doesn't do enough at either end and we can use Thomas, Gibbs & Curnow more effectively in most defensive roles.

I can honestly see Hendo playing down back if this trend continues.

The key thing that comes out of this is that on paper we have the luxury of picking a form side, and if the boys manage their egos and the staff manage their bodies, that means finals.


I expect you to argue your point well.

I have to have a good look and think about you POV. I don't think Watto has proved much Imo playing against Fields. Looking at highlights this morning Watto was too big and perhaps too experienced too for his opponent fields. Don't get me wrong because there's plenty of time for Watto to continue to show that form. I think Wood can ruck for most of the day. After all he virtually did that last year with bugger all fitness.

Still need a relief ruck because he's not super human. We have enough taller players who have some experience in it but Casboult is the only one who seems to be able to hold his own there.

Watson wasn't manned by Fields the whole game. There's highlights of Jamo trailing behind Watson, so he is in ripper form right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:11 pm 
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..also, i think some defenders 'give up' the chase when their opponent goes out of goal scoring range in their mind.. ..but that's a poor habit, and poor habits kick in during a game, and i think defenders may not guard watto enough when he ventures outside fifty.. ..but watto is an accurate kick up to 60m.. ..and he doesnt lose too much accuracy going the torp either, so i wouldn't be surprised to see him kick the occasional goal from 60+..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 5:48 am 
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latest version


kj jamo doc
2e rowe simmo
murph gibbs yazz
thomas hendo walker
menz casbolt clem

kruze, judd, curnow, cripps

int: bell everitt, carrots. sub bb


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 8:11 am 
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Arnhem blues wrote:
latest version


kj jamo doc
2e rowe simmo
murph gibbs yazz
thomas hendo walker
menz casbolt clem

kruze, judd, curnow, cripps

int: bell everitt, carrots. sub bb

Wrong thread.

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 Post subject: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:48 am 
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Best 22?! I've written off 2015 and 2016 based on last night.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 3:13 pm 
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FB: Jaksch Jamison Tuohy
HB: Docherty Rowe Yarran
CC: Gibbs Murphy Simpson
HF: Walker Henderson Buckley
FF: Menzel Jones Watson

RR: Kreuzer Cripps Judd

Int: Everitt Curnow Bell Thomas

Depth chart:

Smalls:
1st tier - Boekhorst, Carrazzo, Sheehan, Graham, Smith, Dick
2nd tier - Whiley, Armfield, Byrne, Tutt, Gowers, DVR
3rd tier - Russell, Walsh, Holman
4th tier - Johnson, Ellard

Talls:
1st tier - Casboult, Fields, Wood, White
2nd tier - Giles, Foster
3rd tier - Warnock

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:42 pm 
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With Kreuzer injured again I can't see how Levi doesn't play.

Don't think much of Levi other than he can fill a relief ruck role if required.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 5:36 pm 
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He's still our best contested mark alongside Rowe.

But yeah, round 1 will look more like:

FB: Jaksch Jamison Tuohy
HB: Docherty Rowe Yarran
CC: Gibbs Murphy Simpson
HF: Thomas Henderson Buckley
FF: Menzel Jones Watson

RR: Wood Cripps Judd

Int: Everitt Curnow Bell Boekhorst

If Casboult can show himself to be more of a goal scoring threat through the pre-season I'll change my mind, but he's not done enough so far to impress me after last year's fade out.

Ultimately I'd like to see one less tall in favour of another speedster in the team.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:21 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
Arnhem blues wrote:
latest version


kj jamo doc
2e rowe simmo
murph gibbs yazz
thomas hendo walker
menz casbolt clem

kruze, judd, curnow, cripps

int: bell everitt, carrots. sub bb

Wrong thread.


Bringing it back


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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We have speedsters?

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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We have speedsters?



Rob Wiley was pretty fast in his day!

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FB: Jaksch Rowe Tuohy
HB: Docherty Jamison Yarran
CC: Everitt Murphy Simpson
HF: Thomas Henderson Walker
FF: Menzel Jones Buckley

RR: Kruezer Gibbs Judd

Int: Cripps Curnow Bell Casboult


Emg: Armfield, Smith, White, Wood

Our reserves are shaping up nicely!

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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No love for Watto in here any more; only got the half to impress in the WCE game and no one was really bagging goals for either team except Kennedy.

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