He's said this.

"We've got some good footballers; we've got some players that play with a lot of heart. Perhaps the talent level is not quite right there," he said.

Now, he may think that but why would you bother saying it.? No other coach says this and this is not the first time he's said it.

He's saying they are not good enough to be in a MM coached side.

What shit's me is the he coached pretty well, the team almost got there but then he drops a big brown one on them.............apart from Daisy of course.

In the post match presser Mick said Daisy's shit game was due to some mysterious form of performance anxiety.

Teflon. It's not me, it's those guys.

WEAK AS PISS.

.......and this isn't about everything MM say's. I had no problem with his criticising the look of the game last week.

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Flipping Burgers.

So far Warnock has played as many games this season as Malthouse's trades Everitt and Thomas. Your assessment of what constitutes abject failure is biased and completely at odds with the coach's, and thus highly irrelevant. Would be a bit different if the two you mentioned weren't getting a game.

He's spot and so are you, he's pointing out the obvious and he's hit the nail on the head.

All I'm saying is I don't see the point. I'm not hearing Richardson say James Gwilt is an average key defender and once we get someone better he's as good as gone. Roos isn't lamenting the fact he's got Max Gawn as his CHF.

It was refreshing to hear MM criticise the game last week. He was right about that. And he's right about what he's said about Curnow and Waite. But being singled out for being shit at your job would be an average feeling.

I really fail to see what it accomplishes.

You have to remember the guy is the oldest coach by almost a decade. There are 4 coaches in their 30s. The game is moving quickly and it must be tough to keep up, and reverting to type that was common decades ago must be expected. We knew his age when we signed him so we have to take the bad that comes with signing someone of a different generation.

There comes a time you have to call a spade a spade.
Waite has been allowed to get away with everything he wants to do.
Should we pat waite and put up with his waitedness forever?
The guy is 31.
He isn't the future and by the definition of that you have nothing to lose by cutting him loose from contaminating the list.
Which is what he has been doing with his lair like character

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Waite didn't play Sunday.

Curnow did and Mick did exactly what you crucified Ratts for, but now it's calling a spade a spade?

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In reference to Waite that is true - at his best he is definitely an A grader.

Our club culture of poor leadership has allowed him to get away with that - season after season.

He was our X-factor remember? Players would say that in interviews all the time.

X-factor doesnt mean you do whatever you like on and off the field.

I recall that season where he was reported about 4 times - ridiculous acts on the ground, for which he was spoken to, but kept repeating.

But then again why should we worry about Waite when Judd was doing it with chicken wing tackles and pressure points??

Fev, with all his character faults and his petulance early on, was still winning games off his own boot and provided some excitement.

weak player leadership produces a conveyor belt where clay enters one end, and manure exits the other...

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The only guys he has called out specifically are two that deserve it and perhaps this is the final line in the sand. He is not holding back........if it works and they turn around we win......if they don't, we'll what have we lost?

Making a statement about our skill level is fair enough and no doubt the players in question know the issue.

We have to harden up as a football club. I'd rather have his comments than Sticks's "matey, matey" comments, Ratts's bumbling 'early doors' strategy and reliance on recruiting program that has been a disaster.

I'm good with Malthouse because he isn't Carlton......it's about time we stripped ourselves bare and got fair dinkum. This is a job for someone who knows the gnarly traps of a football club. Which - unfortunately for those Malthouse bashers - requires ego and plenty of hardened experience.

You don't think Curnow felt bad enough after making that mistake, then getting the headphones on for a 2 minute blast from Mick?.

Was a public statement highlighting Curnow's error and then comparing his match stats to that of Sidebottom really necessary?

Curnow is the hardest working guy in our team, he didn't deserve that.

Very poor effort on MM's part.

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Not to mention Curnow has had to struggle his whole career and fought his way to senior footy from the rookie list through sheer hard work, whilst. Sidebottom is a highly rated early draft pick.

And using a second rounder on Rowe.

bit hard on Rowe...nobody was to know he was to become seriously ill

playing very well this year - even though the ball is coming in low and fast because of our low and inconsistent workrate in the midfield and average pressure by the forwards

Mick should be given some credit for persisting with Rowe...

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FFS mick didn't criticise Curnow. If you watch the presser he actually said Curnow was equally influential on the game as Sidebottom (identical stats, identical meters gained) but one kick stands out to the PUBLIC. Not mick. Just watch the video.

Rowe was a dud pick before he unfortunately got sick.
Ratten recruited him to be our saviour in the forward line. Ratts didn't recruit him to be a key defender. That was Mick's idea - and most likely would never have happened under Ratts. We probably would still have Thornton.

Mick admitted it might be unfair singling Ed out. Which to me says Ed has a few runs on the board

But the facts are the list is poor and now we've taken a dive down the ladder I think it's refreshing a coach comes out and says this is where we are at and this is the reason

Mick has called it as he's seen it from day one and has been bang on since day one. The only thing he's gotten wrong was thinking this list could be top four plus

But then he was the coach of Coll when Carlton smacked Coll two years ago and were virtual flags favourites so I don't blame him for rating the list

But things change quick in footy these days and since that night our experienced midfield core have hit the wall and with it our fortunes have come crumbling down

The list is rubbish, why would you pretend otherwise ?? This is a cut throat biz if a player can't handle being told what's reality then he probably hasn't the stomach let alone the skill to take us to the promised land

And we must all remember ladies and gentlemen

Mr S guaranteed the entire General Assembly at the UN that Mick Malthouse will improve the blues the moment he sets foot into Visy Park (ie after he returned from the book tour)

sound familiar? remember when Mr S criticised the Great Fraser Brown (the Dean Wallis tackler) for saying that ratten could coach carlton with his eyes shut.

It seems that the Great Mick malthouse cannot even recognise the game that's being played let alone coach a team.

Oh the pain of the historical truth record can NEVER be extinguished ladies and gentlemen

[FRYBIE]

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He's also got wrong losing to deadbeats Melbourne, Brisbane and GWS.

Retirement should be a day closer if he adds StKilda to that list.

be fair, Roos, Leppitsch and cameron were just too cunning - too good for Mick and wiley

And we must all remember that Leppitsch had the Great Paparone and Zorko at his disposal

There really was NOTHING that Mick could do from the Box

NOTHING ladies and gentlemen

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Watched the video , thanks for the link.

I have no issue with what he has said in relation to Waite, Garlett and Robinson. Although it appears as though If Jeffy is having personal issues Micks not really interested.

But the message re the team and Curnow is still not what I would hope to hear from a senior coach. He dressed up Curnows mistake but left people in no doubt that he was a big factor in the loss.

Did not need to say that.

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