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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:02 pm 
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Someone said he'd say it and he's delivered!!!!!!!

Malthouse: "Melbourne was very, very good. They ran harder than us. Their fundamentals were better than ours." #AFLBluesDees
Malthouse: "We're going to keep persisting. Our team will change next week due to injuries." #AFLBluesDees
Malthouse: "At the moment, we're a football side without confidence."
Malthouse: "Our execution was poor. We took three marks inside-50. I'll be responsible for a heap of things, but I can't mark the football."

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:03 pm 
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get rid of him

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:03 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Alistair Lynch summed it up nicely. The players are playing with anxiety, they don't want to take the game on, to scared of making a mistake and don't trust the game plan.

I've seen this anxiety and mistake-free mentality under all three coaches of this era.

It's the players, not the game plan or any trust issues regarding the game plan. They don't trust each other out there consistently. They don't believe in themselves.

If Mick gets sacked it needs to be because he has communicated this to them and they have not responded to how he has communicated it. You can't sack him because they're soft and have been for the better part of 8 years, and doing so would likely force a board spill through sheer outrage.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:04 pm 
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jenx wrote:
I'd be interested to hear Synbads view of the club right now


The stuff that is going on onfield would have been the same if Synbad was president.

He was all for the coaching change in 2012 and would not hear a bad word about the players. Mick was going to turn them into guns.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:04 pm 
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Hibbo wrote:
The clubs in its worst period ever. Pitiful performances repeatedly and no one to come in. This clubs needs a entire rebuild. Basically anyone over 24 won't be around when we COULD be contenders. Any players of value 24yrs & over should be moved on for the best price. Bank up in the next two drafts, we NEED at least 4-5 picks in the top 40 in next years draft.
Everyone's on the table except:
Menzel, Simmo, Buckley, Cripps, Hendo, Graham, Giles, Holman & Temay.


Spot on :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:04 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Alistair Lynch summed it up nicely. The players are playing with anxiety, they don't want to take the game on, to scared of making a mistake and don't trust the game plan.

I've seen this anxiety and mistake-free mentality under all three coaches of this era.

It's the players, not the game plan or any trust issues regarding the game plan. They don't trust each other out there consistently. They don't believe in themselves.

If Mick gets sacked it needs to be because he has communicated this to them and they have not responded to how he has communicated it. You can't sack him because they're soft and have been for the better part of 8 years, and doing so would likely force a board spill through sheer outrage.



You're in favour of sacking him then?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:08 pm 
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It's ironic that those who are complaining about our last quick fix are now the ones itching for another one.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:08 pm 
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I can't believe he said Melbourne were good.. Surely that's it


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:08 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Mick was going to turn them into guns.


This is the key

We were told he would get the best out of those on the list

He would make Carlton a team that was hard to play against.

A defensively focussed team.

He would get them playing to their ability.

It is clear there are many talented players on the list who have gone backwards since MM came on board

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:09 pm 
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A challenge to the board has to be on the cards don't it?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:09 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Alistair Lynch summed it up nicely. The players are playing with anxiety, they don't want to take the game on, to scared of making a mistake and don't trust the game plan.

I've seen this anxiety and mistake-free mentality under all three coaches of this era.

It's the players, not the game plan or any trust issues regarding the game plan. They don't trust each other out there consistently. They don't believe in themselves.

If Mick gets sacked it needs to be because he has communicated this to them and they have not responded to how he has communicated it. You can't sack him because they're soft and have been for the better part of 8 years, and doing so would likely force a board spill through sheer outrage.



You're in favour of sacking him then?

Keep on sacking coach's until we find one our soft cock players like...

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:12 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
get rid of him

finally! :grin: :smoking:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:13 pm 
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Pafloyul wrote:
It's ironic that those who are complaining about our last quick fix are now the ones itching for another one.


I am one of those.

Also the opposite is happening. Those who said it wasn't the players it was the coach at the end of 2012 are now saying it is the players.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:14 pm 
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Actually I thought there might be more outrage in this thread but I think almost everybody is just not interested enough to get angry.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:15 pm 
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Who recruited them?
Who developed them?
Who created the down hill skiing mentality?
Ratten Hughes sticks and co
There is point where mm has to take up the slack but I am not sure you can blame him fully at this point
More worrying is cripps quick enough for afl?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:15 pm 
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I told you all and got....."Its only round2"......Seriously though, We are a rabble at the minute...No Mick we are not at 11o'clock.....Never where...
Mick has got turn this bunch around thier minds ( between the ears) are shot.
Have to persist in playing the youth, with experience hopefully get some matches into them...Sure we gonna get beat, but hopefully we unearth some gems & rid ourselves of players that arent up to it....

Any news on Menzel?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:17 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Actually I thought there might be more outrage in this thread but I think almost everybody is just not interested enough to get angry.


That's because the big group of people who said "it's the players 100%, not Mick" just had a massive wake up call.

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Hornet wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
jimmae wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Alistair Lynch summed it up nicely. The players are playing with anxiety, they don't want to take the game on, to scared of making a mistake and don't trust the game plan.

I've seen this anxiety and mistake-free mentality under all three coaches of this era.

It's the players, not the game plan or any trust issues regarding the game plan. They don't trust each other out there consistently. They don't believe in themselves.

If Mick gets sacked it needs to be because he has communicated this to them and they have not responded to how he has communicated it. You can't sack him because they're soft and have been for the better part of 8 years, and doing so would likely force a board spill through sheer outrage.



You're in favour of sacking him then?

Keep on sacking coach's until we find one our soft cock players like...

100% with you. It's about pleasing them isn't it. They are pathetic, almost the whole team, we have so many hacks in that team it ain't funny. The players are crap, they'd struggle to follow any game plan.
Sacking the recruiters makes more sense to me.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:19 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Pafloyul wrote:
It's ironic that those who are complaining about our last quick fix are now the ones itching for another one.


I am one of those.

Also the opposite is happening. Those who said it wasn't the players it was the coach at the end of 2012 are now saying it is the players.


Not me, it was always both with the coach second.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:20 pm 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Actually I thought there might be more outrage in this thread but I think almost everybody is just not interested enough to get angry.


Did we lose again? Ho hum....


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