yes. mark Mc Clure was great tonite on 360.
telling MM he needs to pull his head in as a rep of our club.
he said MM needs to reinvent himself, but also that he could lead a rebuild.
I'm not so sure he can do that, or maybe I can't see the point.
If the game style is gonna be that rotten around the boundary crap, and those stupid long kicks to a contest, which we never win...why would you want it?
It seems t o me that MM is a bit of a hack now, who likes to choose hack assistants too.
It just makes me more depressed about the club that we might extend his contract.
I never liked him, but......I really hoped I'd see the team improving under his expert guidance.
If he's so great with his players, how come their collective confidence is at an all time low?

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Worst key position stocks in the AFL - by a mile by the way.

2nd worst midfield in AFL - which is ageing severely.

Over 2/3rds of the list are awful kicks - will not improve.

Complete and utter renovation required. WILL NOT HAPPEN. The powers that be only realising now that maybe we aren't that good. The denial and delusion from the club is astounding.

The football issues are pretty simple to diagnose.
In 2011, our recent most successful year, we had few injuries and we had our best team playing.
2012,2013 and 2014 will all deliver a 10-12 game win return because our recruitment and development have failed. We have not replaced our ageing stars.

And what have we done about it. From where I sit no where near enough. Moving hughes on happened way too late. I dont get it. The board and swan know the list is shit. We have heard them. But the same people who got us in the mess essentially remain. The most important recruiting is the management around build the list. Where are we at on that appointment....

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'‘He had an enormous capacity to pump himself up and get the best out of himself when it mattered. He had a fire in his belly – a passion for the contest like few other players’' -- D Parkin in reference to the dominator

In other words the coach is not the biggest problem. Changing that does nothing to sddress what we really need to action.

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'‘He had an enormous capacity to pump himself up and get the best out of himself when it mattered. He had a fire in his belly – a passion for the contest like few other players’' -- D Parkin in reference to the dominator

Agree. .it is a top down. Set what you want to do from the top and start all the way through. Blaming this mid or that KP player is pointless. We chose them and are asking them to do something they either cannot or don't believe in.

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee

the socceroos will cop as many goals as brazil would wanna knock past them
if brazil want 5 they will score 5.

just how it is between the socceroos and brazil... dont kid yourself

and let me just add.. if they swapped jumpers... the new brazil would have 5 knocked past them from the new socceroos

why?
because there is a massive gulf of talent difference no matter what gameplan he soccerros play
they would be like us... spectators in the game

theorising doesnt make it reality

thats why australia will never win a world cup in our lifetime

there is no substitute to talent

then after that u need everything else
but with no talent u have skata

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Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Andy McKay saw this coming.

I posted this a month or so about Mick and McKay butting heads in regards to assistant coaches and the lack of current or more experienced talent within the department. I been told its a concern that's been voiced by senior players but feel are not being heard.

Andy McKay was very keen to try get some fresh faces onto the coaching panel. He was keen on someone from Geelong, I think it is Blake Caracalla along with a recently retired player but Mick strongly opposed this and when and got Laidley and bumped up Brad Green.

Mick didn't want the club to lure a young assistant with the promise of them being groomed to take over as senior coach. Some say Mick was burnt by what occurred at the pies and others say Mick is stubborn.

The players approached Andy McKay worried that there's to much of a generation gap with coaches and players. Mick, Rob Whiley and Laidley have been around a while now. John Barker has a voice but Brad Green is just as an introvert as most of our players. The players respect Mick, they love Rob Whiley but im hearing they haven't taken to Dean Laidley. Some are bothered by the game style and fear they are falling behind. It's understood McKay feels the same.

It doesn't help when former players like Laidler and Betts chat to some of their mates at the club and explain the obvious differences between the Blues and where they are at. Both say the crows and swans are at another level. The professionalism, the way they train, leadership, development and the camaraderie. I know Laids is loving his time at the Swans.

Speak to Andreas Everitt or Michael Osborne and ask them what differences they see between their former clubs compared to the setup at our club....... Enough said!

Can't argue with that.

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dane's trolling again

Not really enough said at all.

I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't know any of the players personally. What are they saying the differences are, and have they voiced these concerns to anyone at the club so as to seek improvement?

It's pretty easy to complain that things are poor, but as senior people at the club (regardless of how long they've been there) they should be pushing for change otherwise they are just part of the problem.

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Audere est Facere

Not sure what Eddie & Adelaide have to gloat about.

It's interesting how the senior players, if the above is true, haven't been able to raise this issue with Mick himself.

For as long as we have Sticks at the helm, we will never change the culture.

We need a President who sets a professional culture himself. Just wearing a suit means nothing.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

I feel Trigger said it best.

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dane's trolling again

From the horses mouth, Eddie Betts would have stayed if given a 4 year deal even on the less coin that Carlton were offering.

Those that say we should have re-signed him, are you willing to give him a 4 year deal??

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T E A M

How is Eddie enjoying Adelaide? Family settling in well?

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dane's trolling again

yes, start the renovation Mick .... pull yourself down first

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But i thought he wanted to be near his ill father. Yet he was willing to stay at Carlton on a 4 year deal. I am confused.

Funny how any rumor or "heard this players said" is taken as gospel as long as it fits agenda.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

That would have had Eddie playing until he was 36!

I love the little fella - but i'll give you a tip...Ed wasn't born in 1986.