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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:35 pm 
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Effes wrote:
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I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.

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cimm1979 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.


Everyone was saying "Tuohy will go to another level. He'll get the best out of Gibbs and Murphy; we'll be a team that is hard to play against"

Now the same people are blaming the players

He's a dinosaur. Wiley is a dinosaur. Sticks is a dinosaur.

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cimm1979 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.


Where does the coach's responsibility end and the individual player's pride begin?

Why should a player who wants 700k a year not chase the opposition?

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GWS wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.


Where does the coach's responsibility end and the individual player's pride begin?

Why should a player who wants 700k a year not chase the opposition?


Why have a coach at all.?

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cimm1979 wrote:
GWS wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.


Where does the coach's responsibility end and the individual player's pride begin?

Why should a player who wants 700k a year not chase the opposition?


Why have a coach at all.?


Why have players?

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Effes wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'm still convinced MM is a great coach. What he's lacking at CFC is decent assistants and players with capacity to learn and step up.


He doesn't want decent assistants - he only wants yes men.

Green (green), Capuano, Barker, Wiley (mate), Laidley (mate), Osborne (green)

Again, in any workforce think of the impact statements like "we'll sack 25% of the list at the end of the season" has on morale.


He's turned average players into shit players.

The game has gone past him.


Everyone was saying "Tuohy will go to another level. He'll get the best out of Gibbs and Murphy; we'll be a team that is hard to play against"

Now the same people are blaming the players

He's a dinosaur. Wiley is a dinosaur. Sticks is a dinosaur.

yes to your post and cimm's post.
Was thinking along those lines.

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Worst effort ever.

Worse than Pagan.

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Mr Malthouse.

Why did you play Henderson forward when our backline is shit.

Why did you play an unfit Carrazzo?

Why did Rowe play?

Why did White play?

Why did Bell start as a sub against a team that's got huge midfielders?

Why did Ellard play?

Why haven't you got more games into Graham?

Will Cripps play next?

What is your game plan?

Can you please resign this week?


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 Post subject: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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What is our game plan? Seriously what is it based on? Rowe, Bell, curnow, walker, ellard, garlett, Robinson have to be on their last chance?


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Whatever the game plan is, it's not going to win us many games.

The players look like they did when they new Pagan's game plan was rubbish. It's inconceivable to think we are going through this again with a stubborn old coach.


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 Post subject: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:18 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Whatever the game plan is, it's not going to win us many games.

The players look like they did when they new Pagan's game plan was rubbish. It's inconceivable to think we are going through this again with a stubborn old coach.


That's the story at the Pies apparently, Buckley and the assistant tried to talk MM into changing his game style but he wouldn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Malthouse press conference "I didn't see this coming". Just about sums this blind idiot up.


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 Post subject: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:48 pm 
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He isn't the problem, but he's part of the problem.

Good coaches aren't always good. Barrassi did nothing at Melbourne, same as Pagan with us, Roos is struggling now, Wallace was highly rated until Richmond etc

We don't have enough money out into the rest of the coaching staff because we are paying Mick everything.

The club is beyond dumb.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:07 am 
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Hawkeye wrote:
verbs wrote:
Whatever the game plan is, it's not going to win us many games.

The players look like they did when they new Pagan's game plan was rubbish. It's inconceivable to think we are going through this again with a stubborn old coach.


That's the story at the Pies apparently, Buckley and the assistant tried to talk MM into changing his game style but he wouldn't.

This is such a strange post. When exactly did Buckley and the one assistant try to talk Mick into changing the game style but he wouldn't???

Was it in 2009? Perhaps acceptable, but they were in fact proven wrong.

Was it in 2010? Then they're idiots, because Collingwood hardly lost a game and won the flag.

Was it in 2011? Wow! Just wow! Reigning premiers. Kicking butt again. Finished top 2 on the ladder, and made the GF. And lost to a gun team by not much. WTF were they thinking????

Was it in 2012? Well Mick had left and Buckley got his way and could implement his own game style with his assistant. That's been going well.

Look, I'm not sure whether Mick's game style is the right one in the modern era, but please everyone, don't insult our intelligence by
----- a. judging it in this rabble of a club with this rabble of a list; and
----- b. saying that it didn't work at Collingwood.... :screwy:

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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moshe25 wrote:

This is such a strange post. When exactly did Buckley and the one assistant try to talk Mick into changing the game style but he wouldn't???

Was it in 2009? Perhaps acceptable, but they were in fact proven wrong.

Was it in 2010? Then they're idiots, because Collingwood hardly lost a game and won the flag.

Was it in 2011? Wow! Just wow! Reigning premiers. Kicking butt again. Finished top 2 on the ladder, and made the GF. And lost to a gun team by not much. WTF were they thinking????

Was it in 2012? Well Mick had left and Buckley got his way and could implement his own game style with his assistant. That's been going well.

Look, I'm not sure whether Mick's game style is the right one in the modern era, but please everyone, don't insult our intelligence by
----- a. judging it in this rabble of a club with this rabble of a list; and
----- b. saying that it didn't work at Collingwood.... :screwy:


This is why CFC either has to sakc Mick, or go all in.

Let mick build the list and run the club how he wants, or if the board cannot stand to hand over any form of control to another person, sakc Mick and find the next 'yes' man.

Although with dwindling club memberships, increased media scrutiny as to how shit we are, I think the board and sticks have gotten al the mileage they can out of the 'yes' man approach.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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So people are calling for us to sakc another coach that will have to be paid out a shitload of cash?

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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Donstuie wrote:
So people are calling for us to sakc another coach that will have to be paid out a shitload of cash?



fwiw ... Malthouse should not be sacked. The board should step aside.

But I get the feeling Malthouse will be made the scapegoat -- like, Brittain, Pagan and Ratten, before him -- and the board will attempt to carry on as normal. ie lining their own pockets at our expense.


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 Post subject: Re: Sakc Malthouse!!!
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Hmmm ... I have held back today till I calmed down.

Its now clearer than ever.

We have appointed a super coach.

Who cares whether his tactics are antiquated?
Who cares whether he is reluctant to try some of our youngsters?
Who cares that we have regressed since he took over?
And if he happens to lose the playing group ... who cares?

What matters ... is that we have Dr Strangelove! As I have said before ... a supercoach doesn't win 1 premiership in 18 years by sitting on his hands.

I am more confident than ever ... we will make the top 4 within 10 years. :thumbsup:

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BigBlueWave wrote:
Hmmm ... I have held back today till I calmed down.

Its now clearer than ever.

We have appointed a super coach.

Who cares whether his tactics are antiquated?
Who cares whether he is reluctant to try some of our youngsters?
Who cares that we have regressed since he took over?
And if he happens to lose the playing group ... who cares?

What matters ... is that we have Dr Strangelove! As I have said before ... a supercoach doesn't win 1 premiership in 18 years by sitting on his hands.

I am more confident than ever ... we will make the top 4 within 10 years. :thumbsup:


He is due criticsm. No doubt but there is a bigger picture that needs addressing

However, instead of the usual sarcastic BS you spout everyday how about backing it up with logic and reasoning??

FYI I believe he has come into a club that is culturally weak and with out direction and has put pressure on the players to play a hard finals type defensive style and they have crumbled. WHY. They are front running downhill skiers.

MM needs to change a few things but he isn't going anywhere (we can't afford it) and it's about time the players took some bloody responsibility. They simply aren't good enough.

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