The principle of our game style is based around kicking to contests. Of course you're going to turn the ball over when you kick to areas where the opposition are expecting it and place extra players!

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Malthouse being the new Pagan was signposted well before he'd coached a competitive game for the Blues. Is he as stubborn as Pagan was? Let's hope like hell he's not. Unfortunately he's not someone who likes to have assistants with vision and innovation, so we're entirely left to his mercies. As fun as it was to make the finals last year, it has papered over a poor year by Malthouse, and we're set for a carbon copy this year, or perhaps even worse.

Things can be turned around. Even Melbourne are looking like they have a better concept of what to do out on the footy field, even if they don't have the ability to execute it yet.

If we keep bombing to a contest, we will finish bottom 6.

I think we are heading for the spoon - Its only a matter of time before the players lose faith in what they are doing - Signs are there that their confidence is already shot and kicking for goal is all about confidence

In any form of life you have to believe in what you are doing then you will succeed ,if you dont then you cant give it your complete effort and eventually you give up trying - We are one or 2 beltings away from a complete capitulation

Malthouse was brought in because they considered we had the players to take us to a flag and he would do it . Why now some 12 months on are the players all shit

It's all about belief - I would not have given 20 bob for a Freo player 2-3 years ago - Now they are flag favourites because they believe in what they are doing will result in success and they are confident about it

This is going to be a sad and depressing year for Carlton folk and it will continue for several years to come if Mick doesn't pull his head out of his arse

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Our game plan is the bomb.

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Looking forward to this thread being bumped

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dane's trolling again

or bombed?

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Actually playing Graham, Cripps, Menzel and Buckley might be the refresh the club needs. They can all play and not convinced they'll get smashed, physically or on the scoreboard by most sides. I like the cut of Giles too in the lead up matches. At 195cm and 95kg he could be the type we need. If he goes ok in the NBs then i'd look at him. The current lot are too lazy, developed a lazy culture. Won't win anything with that. New blokes might give MM a chance to develop young blokes in the way he wants too unlike the current ones who seemed ingrained in previous cultures.

Yep correct!
Mick Malthouse is responsible for the recruiting of the current lack of skills.

Are you all there?

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They all fit.

If our lazy dumb footballers don't listen to the coach maybe micky should ring up Ferguson and ask for some advice.

Maybe Jim. I'm not saying don't play them, just don't play them all at once. They may come in a blitz, but they might not and they might only go ok for a few games before getting worn out. It happens with kids.

I just think a lot of the calls to play kids comes from frustration with the 22 that went out the week before, not because the kids are ready or even good enough.

If he plays 5 kids and we get smashed TC will be full of "these effing kids should earn a spot not be gifted one" "Giles isn't built for league footy" "Cripps is too slow" yada yada yada.

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Sorry mate but two totally separate statements. I don't blame Mick only for our poor skills. A lot more need to take responsibility for this. Correct me if I'm wrong but everyone on an AFL list is a professional footballer. What the hell do ours do at training? I have not seen any improvement in the foot skills of Robinson, Curnow, Bell etc.

And yes, I am all here.

..and you won't.. ..there's only so much improvement in skills that any player can achieve, especially when so much time and energy is devoted to fitness and body conditioning.. ..so if you recruit a player with questionable skills, and play them in the heat of afl tempo, then you get what you recruit.. ..that, coupled with lazy team work rate.. ..their skills will seem to improve if everyone runs and spreads into space, if the get time from team mates blocking, etc etc..

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I'd be happy if we kicked to a contest and Richmond marked it, it was our foot passing to the unmarked Richmond blokes miles way from anyone that really impressed me, almost as good as our shots on goals (and the way Garlett combined both was Nijinskiesque). Perhaps the trick it to spread a large opposition's jumper across our goals and we'll nick 'em from anywhere.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

MM has stated at every opportunity that we have a number of guys who are not fit enough.

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its true... and there is nothing in the ressies that will give us what we need.
run and spread
he played bucks and lucas.
who else is there???

he knew were light on for spreading and dissecting when he recruited daisy , docherty and little spider.

daisy and baby spider are playing dockery injured.

imagine for a moment we didnt have daisy and baby spider......



club is crazy

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Even teams with genuine one grab marks and power forward option don't just bomb away long....

We as a team are one of the last teams to benefit from a bom tactic.

Perhaps only casboult is a contested strong mark and he isn't playing.

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I'm not of the view we need to gut the team and play the kids. Its a silly idea. We need to stick with what we've got and just persist with them until they improve. Sure give the kids a go, but not just canning a bunch of senior players as a wasted cause and going with youth as some sort of fix. They need just as much time, if not more to get themselves right for AFL. I say stick with what we've got until they improve. Set a process in place and stick with it. A game plan and go with it week in week out until they get it right.
Every now and then you can see it coming together, small glimpses of the process working. Small pieces of play that look good and produce results. We just can't maintain it for 4 quarters yet. MM has a plan and that plan doesn't involve gutting the list and replacing it with youth. Week in week out until they get it right. Its their full time job, eventually it'll start coming together.

If we manage to keep the side out there playing plus add in Walker, carrots and Judd no way known we will get the spoon. I remember own spoon sides and this is much better .

However our dumb ass board were talking top 4 when we all knew that wasn't possible and we are a lucky 7-8 at absolute best, I had us 11th at the beginning if the year and I'm thinking now maybe 13-14.

We need to be honest with where we are at and what needs to be done.

Personally I would like to see Mick moved on at the end of next year, spend less on a new coach and bolster the amount of assistant coaches and look at holistically improving the football department, this should also extend to the playing list, no more over spending on individuals like Judd or Thomas. Let Gibbs go if we wants any more than 600, simply isn't worth it. Without him and Judd that frees up a lot of cash to strengthen other areas on so e younger players in the 300-400k range.

The chickens have come home to roost and we need to accept we have flowered up royally.

The problem with Casboult is that he is largely crap. Can't kick, isn't fit enough to run out games either.

Talk that he offers more than Waite is laughable.